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Preacher wanted
his body dismembered.

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They used
an electric saw...

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and they used a hand saw.

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And they took
his head and his arms

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and were put
in the refrigerator overnight.

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The following day,

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they took the body parts
to the roof.

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They got the head,
pulled it out...

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...and then
they started playing
soccer with it.

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Welcome to Very Scary People.

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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

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In the late 1980s,

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a violent
and sinister crime boss

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known as Preacher

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rules the streets
of New York City.

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He demands total submission
from his enemies,

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absolute loyalty
from his crew,

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and anyone crossing him
is sentenced to death.

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As Preacher's
body count soars,

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his notoriety grows,

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and the NYPD races
to catch him

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and end the bloodshed.

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Preacher is known
by another name.

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One that comes from
the trail of shocking violence

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he leaves in his wake.

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This is the story of
the Black Hand of Death.

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Twelve-year-old Donnell Porter

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was on his way to school.

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The family got a call saying

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they had Donnell.

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And they demand

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$400,000 or $500,000

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if they wanted Donnell back.

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They let them know,
"I can't come up with that."

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So the family was told
to go to this restaurant.

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And in the can...

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was Donnell's finger.

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There's an audio tape.

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"Come get me.

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They cut my finger off, Mommy.
Come and help me."

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They couldn't come up
with the money.

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So later...

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a homeless man
found Donnell's body

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wrapped in black garbage bags
like trash.

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That was just a heinous crime
that kind of

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was one of the defining crimes
of the era.

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People didn't know who did it.

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But they had an inkling that
it was Preacher and his crew.

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Preacher was
one of those individuals

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that everybody knew his name,

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but nobody could tell you
what he looked like.

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He was like a ghost.

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Sometimes they'd see him,
sometimes they wouldn't.

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He just freaked everybody out.

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There's a myth
that he's 6'5" and he's not.

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His aura is seven foot.

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But he's the worst person
I ever met

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because he pretended to be

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the nicest person I ever met.

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How many people he killed,
tortured, chopped up,

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just the sheer numbers
are amazing.

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When you look
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you just see space.

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And I'm thinking to myself,

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he has no soul.

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It makes you think,
what happened to you

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in your younger years

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to make you go down this path?

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Preacher's real name
is Clarence Heatley.

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And he was born
in Harlem in 1953.

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School records
are kind of shoddy.

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But I don't think
he has formal education
past middle school.

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He decides that

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he's going to engage

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in juvenile delinquency.

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Breaking and entering,

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holding up people,
robbing people,

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possession of firearms.

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And this is pretty much
what happened

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until it landed him
in detention

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where he spent
a significant amount of time.

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Billy, take one. Marker.

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Billy is
one of Heatley's associates

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who agreed to speak about him

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as long as he could
remain anonymous.

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I know he had went
to Warwick Boys Home

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in Warwick, New York.

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The only thing
I ever heard him say was,

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bad things happened
to him there.

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That's exactly what he meant

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when he said bad things
happened to him there.

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These type of institutions

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are a bedrock for

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the learning of
more criminality,

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because there are
a lot of assaults,

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a lot of sexual assaults,

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a lot of brutality.

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After several years
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17-year-old Clarence Heatley
returns to Harlem.

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The neighborhood
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has been overwhelmed

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by drug dealers
peddling everything

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from heroin and LSD
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You had obviously common folks
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and went about life

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in a normal kind of fashion.

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But Harlem also had
a number of runners.

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You had pimps.

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You had people who sold heroin

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and different narcotics,
cocaine.

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Harlem was a culmination of
all those kind of things.

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In the mid-'70s,

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Clarence Heatley

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commits this holdup
of this store.

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He's sentenced to
six to twelve years.

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And he's sent upstate
to Dannemora Prison.

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This particular prison

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is the largest
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in the state.

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In the '70s,

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it was prevalent for
sexual predators in prison.

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And the word is that
Preacher was one of them.

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He actually engaged

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in these behaviors

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in this very facility.

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But terrorizing
his fellow inmates

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isn't the only thing
Heatley does

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during his time in prison.

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Those years were spent
developing a plan.

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At that prison,

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they had one of the best
prison libraries.

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He learns

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through the reading list

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how to become better

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at power and control.

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At controlling men.

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He was reading John Gotti.

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In his book, he talks
about fame and fortune.

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Sun Tzu, in The Art of War,

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talks about organization

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and power and control.

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He had decided
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to form an organization

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which almost mimicked
the Italian mob in some way.

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But he was gonna export that
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In prison,

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he got the name Preacher

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for his ability
to manipulate people

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with words,

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similar to what he felt like
preachers did.

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He's ministering in prison.

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His ministry?

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Criminality.

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His congregation?

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The crew.

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Amen.

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He walked in the prison
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came out as the Preacher
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Back on the streets,

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30-year-old Preacher
finds Harlem

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teeming with dealers
selling cocaine

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and other illegal drugs

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on every street corner.

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The streets were crowded.

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You had every avenue,
every crew out, everybody just
making money.

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Preacher chose
an unusual path

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instead of selling drugs,

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although on some level,

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they did engage
in selling drugs.

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A primary part
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extorting these drug dealers.

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You got this guy,
Clarence Heatley,

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who's learned from the mafia,
from the '70s hustlers,

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and he's also
an expert manipulator,

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and he's prone to violence.

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You can kind of see where
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"I'm not gonna really
sell drugs. I'm just gonna

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oppress drug dealers."

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He basically was taxing
drug dealers.

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But if you're just gonna
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you do have
to have a reputation

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that causes them
to decide to pay their tax.

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It doesn't make any sense
unless they're terrified that
they could be killed.

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People didn't say no

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because they will
wind up dead,

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or one of their
family members dead.

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To build his crew
of killers and enforcers,

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Preacher carefully chooses

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about a dozen young men

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who have grown up
in the inner city.

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Preacher targeted people
who were younger,

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people who had

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something missing
in their lives,

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whether it was a weakness

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or a desire for
one thing or another.

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It really was
a very powerful organization

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for people who probably had

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very little power
in their personal life.

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He was like a father figure
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that he was probably

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providing everything
from insight

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to financial stability
to protection.

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If a young guy was

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having problems with
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Preacher would
take care of it.

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And these young guys

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liked that.

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Preacher would
give you advice
on your relationships.

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He'd give you advice on

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saving your money,

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how you dress,

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you know, how you spoke.

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He was like dad
to some of the guys
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Yeah, I was working off and on

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when I could find work
as a carpenter.

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And that's exactly how
I met Preacher.

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He said, "But how long
you been working here?"

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I said, "I don't know,
it's almost two months."

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He tells me, "Listen,

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you got a choice.

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You're either with me
or against me.

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You're part of this family
or you're killed.

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You know what I'm saying?"

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I said, "Well,
what's the problem?

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I don't know nothing."

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He tells me, "You want
to leave this room?

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You're a part of this family."

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So I decide...

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I can't win.

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You know what I mean?

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So I tell him, "Okay,
what you want me to do?"

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So he says, "Okay,

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take him to Davidson Avenue.

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We want somebody

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on Davidson Avenue
to move off of the block.

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We spoke to him once
and he didn't move.

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So if he don't move...

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leave him there.

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In other words,

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leave him on the block dead."

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So when I get to the corner,

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I say, "Yo, listen,

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people around the corner
is complaining.

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They said they want you
off the block."

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He put his hand in my face
and he shoved me.

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And he shoved me backwards.

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So I shoved the gun
in his chest

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and I emptied the clip.

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Preacher asked, "How'd he do?"

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He said,
"The kid's a monster."

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Preacher looked at me.

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He got up and kissed me
on both cheeks.

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He said,
"Welcome to the family."

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That was
the very first time.

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He treated me like I was,

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I was somebody.
I was part of the family.

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But in hindsight...

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I was a well-trained pit bull.

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That's what he did to me.

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Turned me into a monster.

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Can we cut
for a minute, please?

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Preacher brings
one young man

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after another into his flock,

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using charm

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and a promise of big money.

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Then he builds
his own twisted church,

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a place where
his violent disciples
can call home.

268
00:12:30,216 --> 00:12:32,218
It was
a dilapidated building

269
00:12:32,318 --> 00:12:34,521
until Preacher
got his hands on it.

270
00:12:35,221 --> 00:12:36,322
Started renovating it

271
00:12:36,423 --> 00:12:37,891
one apartment at a time.

272
00:12:39,359 --> 00:12:41,661
The crew lived
in six of the apartments,

273
00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:43,730
so the building was secure.

274
00:12:43,830 --> 00:12:47,233
We even hung concertina wire
around the back of it.

275
00:12:47,334 --> 00:12:49,502
You couldn't get in
and you couldn't get out,

276
00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:51,538
unless we allowed it.

277
00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:56,409
Preacher used
an apartment upstairs

278
00:12:56,509 --> 00:12:57,777
as his headquarters.

279
00:12:57,877 --> 00:13:00,013
I called that the war room.

280
00:13:00,113 --> 00:13:02,115
One day, they were
going in there,

281
00:13:02,215 --> 00:13:03,883
and before they
closed the door,

282
00:13:03,983 --> 00:13:04,851
Preacher turned around
and said,

283
00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:06,386
"Popcorn, come on
in here, man."

284
00:13:07,554 --> 00:13:08,955
I was cooking fish.

285
00:13:09,055 --> 00:13:10,290
I took the apron off,

286
00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:11,891
went into the room with them.

287
00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:14,561
Somebody was talking.

288
00:13:15,095 --> 00:13:16,896
And he was saying

289
00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:19,132
how much Preacher is
a beautiful guy.

290
00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:23,636
"He's a real nice guy.

291
00:13:23,737 --> 00:13:25,672
This guy is
the greatest guy I know.

292
00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:29,042
And if this guy asks me
to kill my mama,

293
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,344
I'm gonna kill my mother."

294
00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:36,316
I can clearly see
Preacher as a cult leader.

295
00:13:36,416 --> 00:13:39,519
I've never seen
anyone manipulate

296
00:13:39,619 --> 00:13:41,588
people in the way he did.

297
00:13:41,688 --> 00:13:43,757
That crew was more of a cult

298
00:13:44,591 --> 00:13:45,458
than a crew...

299
00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:49,262
because of the love
they had for him.

300
00:13:52,432 --> 00:13:54,234
You couldn't
disagree with him.

301
00:13:55,835 --> 00:13:58,405
You couldn't not do
what he asked you to do.

302
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,541
And you couldn't
say no to him.

303
00:14:03,576 --> 00:14:05,679
The organization was
relatively disciplined.

304
00:14:05,779 --> 00:14:08,314
I think discipline is
one of the words I would use

305
00:14:08,415 --> 00:14:10,884
to describe the way
he ran things.

306
00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:13,787
Preacher ran his crew
somewhat like military.

307
00:14:13,887 --> 00:14:15,488
Guys even had rank.

308
00:14:15,588 --> 00:14:17,924
Preacher basically
called the shots.

309
00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,826
John Cuff,
one of his main lieutenants,

310
00:14:19,926 --> 00:14:21,394
was a former police officer.

311
00:14:23,697 --> 00:14:25,031
Anthony "Malik" Boatwright

312
00:14:25,131 --> 00:14:27,100
was an enforcer.

313
00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,337
Yeah, Malik was
sort of a murder machine.

314
00:14:30,437 --> 00:14:32,672
He was able to train
some of the other janitors

315
00:14:32,772 --> 00:14:33,940
in hand-to-hand combat

316
00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,375
or martial arts.

317
00:14:36,576 --> 00:14:39,279
The janitors were
the clean-up crew.

318
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:41,948
Their job were
to kill people. They would

319
00:14:42,048 --> 00:14:45,151
torture them, dismember them,
and clean it up.

320
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,556
These janitors
belonged to him.

321
00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:53,326
They tattooed themselves

322
00:14:53,426 --> 00:14:55,528
with dad, for example,

323
00:14:55,628 --> 00:14:57,764
or janitor,
the bucket, the mop.

324
00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:00,667
All of these things are signs

325
00:15:00,767 --> 00:15:02,235
of membership

326
00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:04,070
and belonging.

327
00:15:05,305 --> 00:15:06,239
A demonstration

328
00:15:06,339 --> 00:15:08,775
of their loyalty
to the Preacher

329
00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:09,743
all the way to the end.

330
00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:12,946
We had rules.

331
00:15:13,046 --> 00:15:16,016
Nobody sleeps with
another member's girlfriend.

332
00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:17,817
No stealing money.

333
00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,687
No getting high
other than marijuana.

334
00:15:20,787 --> 00:15:22,722
No infighting
among crew members.

335
00:15:22,822 --> 00:15:25,225
You know, once you joined
the crew, it was for life.

336
00:15:26,593 --> 00:15:29,295
The only way out was
a cell or a casket.

337
00:15:29,396 --> 00:15:31,698
And if there was a problem,

338
00:15:31,798 --> 00:15:33,533
he would basically bring them
to the basement.

339
00:15:35,201 --> 00:15:37,137
And it would be
almost like a trial,

340
00:15:37,237 --> 00:15:39,472
where it would be a thumbs-up
or a thumbs-down

341
00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:42,342
on whether you would
survive or lose your life.

342
00:15:43,643 --> 00:15:47,313
It so much mirrored
the Roman Colosseum.

343
00:15:47,414 --> 00:15:49,916
The Caesars, ups, downs,

344
00:15:50,016 --> 00:15:51,217
life, death.

345
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,429
Okay.
The whole crew was assembled.

346
00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:06,833
I was told to get naked.

347
00:16:08,435 --> 00:16:09,235
Which I did.

348
00:16:10,837 --> 00:16:12,906
I was to stand inside
of a black bag.

349
00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:15,308
I was shackled.

350
00:16:15,408 --> 00:16:17,143
I was handcuffed
behind my back.

351
00:16:18,345 --> 00:16:19,913
The bag was pulled up
to my shoulders,

352
00:16:20,013 --> 00:16:22,048
and another bag was
pulled down over that,

353
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,049
over my head.

354
00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:25,018
And there was a vote taken.

355
00:16:27,387 --> 00:16:28,688
"All those in favor

356
00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,224
of just getting rid
of this guy...

357
00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:34,928
say 'aye.'"

358
00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:38,798
I could hear him
going around the room.

359
00:16:39,632 --> 00:16:42,202
Nobody voted to kill me.

360
00:16:45,372 --> 00:16:46,740
Except for Malik.

361
00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:50,243
Malik didn't like me
very much at all.

362
00:16:51,745 --> 00:16:53,680
About five seconds goes by.

363
00:16:54,214 --> 00:16:54,948
I hear Preacher say,

364
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:57,283
"Take them chains off my son."

365
00:16:58,651 --> 00:17:00,453
The bag was removed
from my head.

366
00:17:00,553 --> 00:17:02,422
The bag had...

367
00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:03,857
A few ounces of sweat

368
00:17:03,957 --> 00:17:05,992
in the bottom of the bag.
You know what I mean?

369
00:17:09,229 --> 00:17:10,430
The chains were
taken off of me,

370
00:17:10,530 --> 00:17:13,066
and I looked over at Malik,
and you could clearly see that

371
00:17:13,166 --> 00:17:15,035
he was extremely angry

372
00:17:15,135 --> 00:17:16,736
because nobody voted
to kill me.

373
00:17:22,442 --> 00:17:24,344
Preacher controlled life.

374
00:17:24,444 --> 00:17:26,079
He controlled death.

375
00:17:26,646 --> 00:17:27,547
He was a god.

376
00:17:31,518 --> 00:17:32,886
Flush with power

377
00:17:32,986 --> 00:17:34,854
and a devoted, murderous crew,

378
00:17:34,954 --> 00:17:37,257
ready to follow
his every command,

379
00:17:37,357 --> 00:17:39,159
Preacher is ready to cash in

380
00:17:39,259 --> 00:17:41,961
on the hottest street drug
the world has ever seen.

381
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:46,900
Around 1985 and '86
is when the crack

382
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,901
came to Harlem.

383
00:17:50,603 --> 00:17:51,805
Crack was a different animal.

384
00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:56,209
People were making
so much money off of it.

385
00:17:56,309 --> 00:17:58,712
$40,000, $50,000,
$60,000 a week,

386
00:17:58,812 --> 00:17:59,879
if not more.

387
00:18:01,781 --> 00:18:02,849
There was
so much money made

388
00:18:02,949 --> 00:18:05,385
between the years of, like,
'86 and '90 that

389
00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:08,355
it's unimaginable,
even when I reflect on it.

390
00:18:12,158 --> 00:18:13,393
One drug dealer,

391
00:18:13,493 --> 00:18:15,628
he had an operation
in the Bronx

392
00:18:15,729 --> 00:18:16,930
that was making...

393
00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:19,666
maybe $10,000 a night.

394
00:18:22,068 --> 00:18:25,605
And the guy had a problem with

395
00:18:25,705 --> 00:18:26,873
some other people

396
00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:28,775
that he couldn't handle.

397
00:18:30,076 --> 00:18:32,012
So he got in touch
with Preacher.

398
00:18:32,112 --> 00:18:33,380
Preacher had
one of the janitors

399
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,981
take care of
that guy's problem.

400
00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:37,350
Oh, they killed him.

401
00:18:39,386 --> 00:18:40,553
So now the guy

402
00:18:40,653 --> 00:18:41,688
got Preacher on his back,

403
00:18:41,788 --> 00:18:43,223
taking half of his drugs

404
00:18:43,323 --> 00:18:45,091
and his operation.

405
00:18:46,693 --> 00:18:48,828
I like to use the word,
maybe, "mystique,"

406
00:18:48,928 --> 00:18:50,030
about Clarence Heatley.

407
00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:52,665
He would just do
anything that he wanted to.

408
00:18:52,766 --> 00:18:54,668
One of the major things
that he was doing

409
00:18:54,768 --> 00:18:56,803
was he was shaking down, uh,

410
00:18:56,903 --> 00:18:59,172
Harlem bodega owners.

411
00:18:59,272 --> 00:19:00,373
If he needed money,

412
00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:02,509
he would just walk
into the bodega and say,

413
00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:04,878
"Empty the cash register
and give me everything

414
00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:05,912
that you have."

415
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,916
Preacher developed
a reputation of somebody who

416
00:19:10,016 --> 00:19:11,418
you didn't want
to have a problem with.

417
00:19:11,518 --> 00:19:13,653
He had that Mercedes that
he would drive around with.

418
00:19:13,753 --> 00:19:15,989
And people feared the car.

419
00:19:16,089 --> 00:19:17,123
He didn't even have
to be in it.

420
00:19:17,991 --> 00:19:19,359
Preacher became

421
00:19:20,093 --> 00:19:21,394
ultimately a kingpin.

422
00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:24,364
He put his suit on,

423
00:19:24,464 --> 00:19:26,032
and he had two or three cars

424
00:19:26,132 --> 00:19:27,133
as a convoy

425
00:19:27,834 --> 00:19:29,336
driving him through Harlem.

426
00:19:29,436 --> 00:19:31,371
The vision of watching him

427
00:19:31,471 --> 00:19:34,207
get out of this car
with a $3,000 suit,

428
00:19:34,307 --> 00:19:37,744
you're thinking that
this is the guy not to
play around with.

429
00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,380
Because this is
also the guy that

430
00:19:41,448 --> 00:19:43,783
they said killed your friend

431
00:19:44,484 --> 00:19:45,385
a couple of months ago.

432
00:19:50,757 --> 00:19:51,791
At first,

433
00:19:51,891 --> 00:19:54,194
the street dealers that
Preacher orders killed

434
00:19:54,294 --> 00:19:56,629
barely register with police,

435
00:19:56,730 --> 00:19:59,065
until a savvy detective
begins working

436
00:19:59,165 --> 00:20:01,034
Harlem's homicide beat.

437
00:20:01,134 --> 00:20:02,902
Jay Maher, take one. Marker.

438
00:20:08,274 --> 00:20:10,443
We were confronted
with a lot of violence.

439
00:20:11,311 --> 00:20:13,313
I worked many cases,

440
00:20:14,481 --> 00:20:18,618
and I recognized a pattern
in the homicides.

441
00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,788
I approached
the commanding officer
of the detective squad,

442
00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:24,057
told him,
"I think this crew is

443
00:20:24,157 --> 00:20:25,592
doing a majority
of our homicides."

444
00:20:28,261 --> 00:20:30,697
When people
were getting killed
and bodies were popping up,

445
00:20:30,797 --> 00:20:32,532
it's like,
"Wow, who did that?"

446
00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:35,368
But you never would have
heard anybody

447
00:20:35,468 --> 00:20:37,470
mention Preacher's name,

448
00:20:37,570 --> 00:20:40,206
even though they may have
thought that he did it,

449
00:20:40,306 --> 00:20:43,009
because they're probably like,
"He'll kill me."

450
00:20:44,444 --> 00:20:45,679
The fear was there.

451
00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:50,784
The most frustrating thing
about this whole investigation

452
00:20:50,884 --> 00:20:52,786
was Preacher was
one of those individuals

453
00:20:52,886 --> 00:20:54,521
that everybody knew his name,

454
00:20:54,621 --> 00:20:56,356
but nobody could tell you
what he looked like.

455
00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:00,193
The turning point was

456
00:21:00,293 --> 00:21:01,761
William Donnell Porter.

457
00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:05,131
It flipped the whole script on

458
00:21:05,231 --> 00:21:07,100
what would eventually be

459
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,735
the end of this story.

460
00:21:22,916 --> 00:21:24,551
By 1989,

461
00:21:24,651 --> 00:21:26,920
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley's
crew of killers

462
00:21:27,020 --> 00:21:30,323
has been shaking down
drug dealers and shop owners

463
00:21:30,423 --> 00:21:31,758
for six years.

464
00:21:31,858 --> 00:21:34,994
Preacher himself
is raking in millions.

465
00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:38,765
But his income
pales in comparison

466
00:21:38,865 --> 00:21:41,701
to some of Harlem's
top drug dealers.

467
00:21:41,801 --> 00:21:43,336
Rich Porter was
extremely wealthy,

468
00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:46,773
and he was one of those
who flaunted his wealth.

469
00:21:46,873 --> 00:21:49,909
Always had flashy cars,
flashy women.

470
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:52,012
Rich Porter

471
00:21:52,112 --> 00:21:54,247
lived life larger than life.

472
00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:57,484
With that smile on his face,
the way he dressed.

473
00:21:57,584 --> 00:21:59,419
He lived every day
like it was his last.

474
00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:01,588
I knew Rich

475
00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,623
because him and I were
like friends in the street,

476
00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:04,991
I guess, cohorts.

477
00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,659
He was moving bricks.

478
00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:08,795
Kilos.

479
00:22:08,895 --> 00:22:11,531
He wasn't just
no street corner drug dealer.

480
00:22:11,631 --> 00:22:13,233
He was on a whole other level.

481
00:22:14,834 --> 00:22:16,002
But he became a target

482
00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:17,170
because he was so flashy.

483
00:22:18,905 --> 00:22:21,641
Heatley felt
a little jealous of Porter

484
00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:24,077
only because of
the constant money flow.

485
00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:26,579
Heatley had
his own sources of income.

486
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,682
But Heatley woke up
one day and said,

487
00:22:28,782 --> 00:22:29,983
"You know, all this money,

488
00:22:30,083 --> 00:22:32,919
I should be getting
a bigger piece of the pie."

489
00:22:33,019 --> 00:22:35,989
24-year-old Rich Porter
pays Preacher for protection.

490
00:22:36,990 --> 00:22:39,125
He also has an ally
in Preacher's gang.

491
00:22:40,527 --> 00:22:41,528
His uncle.

492
00:22:41,628 --> 00:22:43,363
Johnny "Apple" Porter.

493
00:22:44,631 --> 00:22:46,733
Rich hopes
that family connection

494
00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:49,703
will keep him
and his 12-year-old
brother Donnell safe.

495
00:22:52,272 --> 00:22:54,307
Donnell was the baby.

496
00:22:54,407 --> 00:22:55,575
They wanted Donnell

497
00:22:55,675 --> 00:22:57,777
to not have
to want for nothing.

498
00:22:59,913 --> 00:23:02,382
A lot of the kids
from the projects
in the local area

499
00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:03,950
was part of
my basketball team.

500
00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:05,518
So that's how I met Donnell.

501
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,520
Donnell was a regular kid.

502
00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:08,455
You know, they all were.

503
00:23:08,555 --> 00:23:09,923
You know, pizza.

504
00:23:10,023 --> 00:23:11,491
You know, basketball.

505
00:23:12,592 --> 00:23:13,760
Horsing around.

506
00:23:13,860 --> 00:23:15,829
Just doing things
that 12-year-olds did.

507
00:23:17,831 --> 00:23:19,499
Rich and Donnell
were very close.

508
00:23:20,867 --> 00:23:22,335
He cherished his brother,

509
00:23:22,435 --> 00:23:24,204
and Rich
definitely didn't want

510
00:23:24,304 --> 00:23:25,638
his brother in the streets.

511
00:23:30,510 --> 00:23:32,479
Donnell was
on his way to school.

512
00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:37,650
And according

513
00:23:37,751 --> 00:23:40,053
to the young man that was
walking with him that day,

514
00:23:41,221 --> 00:23:43,456
somebody called him to a car.

515
00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:47,360
Donnell looked at his friend,
he said, "I'll see you later."

516
00:23:50,597 --> 00:23:52,832
And Donnell was never seen
after that day.

517
00:23:55,769 --> 00:23:58,238
Donnell had to have known
the people in the car,

518
00:23:59,572 --> 00:24:00,907
because when he
told his friend

519
00:24:01,007 --> 00:24:02,542
he'd see him later,
it wasn't like,

520
00:24:02,642 --> 00:24:05,145
I'm scared, I'm frantic.
"I'll see you later."

521
00:24:09,215 --> 00:24:11,418
When Donnell
didn't come home from school,

522
00:24:11,518 --> 00:24:13,119
the family got worried.

523
00:24:16,256 --> 00:24:17,390
Nobody had seen Donnell.

524
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:19,726
We know,

525
00:24:20,427 --> 00:24:21,661
during that time,

526
00:24:21,761 --> 00:24:23,196
that Preacher Crew was known

527
00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:25,365
for snatching people
off the street to get money.

528
00:24:26,266 --> 00:24:28,268
So, of course,

529
00:24:28,368 --> 00:24:30,370
Rich would be a great target.

530
00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:34,641
Because they
couldn't get to Rich,

531
00:24:35,408 --> 00:24:37,877
I guess the next option
for them,

532
00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,612
because it was an easy target,

533
00:24:40,413 --> 00:24:41,614
became Donnell.

534
00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:46,386
And soon after,
Rich received a ransom call

535
00:24:46,486 --> 00:24:47,787
demanding

536
00:24:47,887 --> 00:24:50,390
$500,000 for
the return of Donnell.

537
00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:53,360
Just like any other business,

538
00:24:53,460 --> 00:24:55,228
you're not always flush
with cash, you know.

539
00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:56,629
You might have drugs
on the street,

540
00:24:56,730 --> 00:24:58,131
you have people
that owe you money.

541
00:24:58,231 --> 00:25:01,101
So he might not have been able
to put his hands on

542
00:25:01,201 --> 00:25:02,736
$500,000.

543
00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:06,906
He let them know,
"I can't come up with that."

544
00:25:07,007 --> 00:25:08,008
And I think

545
00:25:08,108 --> 00:25:09,075
these kidnappers,

546
00:25:09,175 --> 00:25:10,543
they just wanted the money.

547
00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:16,216
"Malik" Boatwright allegedly
uses his cigar cutter

548
00:25:16,316 --> 00:25:17,817
to cut off Donnell's finger.

549
00:25:22,022 --> 00:25:23,723
The torture
of a child like that,

550
00:25:24,224 --> 00:25:25,258
it really shows

551
00:25:25,358 --> 00:25:27,127
what this group
was capable of.

552
00:25:28,628 --> 00:25:31,498
And what was just
a heinous crime that kind of

553
00:25:31,598 --> 00:25:33,733
was one of the defining crimes
of the era.

554
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:37,737
The family was told
to go to this restaurant,

555
00:25:37,837 --> 00:25:40,040
which was on Broadway and 125.

556
00:25:42,142 --> 00:25:43,309
And they told them

557
00:25:43,410 --> 00:25:45,378
to look in the bathroom
under the sink.

558
00:25:47,047 --> 00:25:48,448
When they went there

559
00:25:49,215 --> 00:25:50,984
and looked under the sink,

560
00:25:51,084 --> 00:25:52,686
they found a can,

561
00:25:52,786 --> 00:25:53,987
which contained
Donnell's finger...

562
00:25:56,156 --> 00:25:57,991
and an audio tape to show that

563
00:25:58,091 --> 00:25:58,958
they had him.

564
00:25:59,893 --> 00:26:01,861
It was Donnell on the tape

565
00:26:01,961 --> 00:26:03,196
pleading for his life.

566
00:26:05,999 --> 00:26:08,335
They heard his cry
for his mommy.

567
00:26:09,502 --> 00:26:11,504
"Mommy, come help me.

568
00:26:11,604 --> 00:26:12,305
Come get me.

569
00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:14,808
They cut my finger off.

570
00:26:16,609 --> 00:26:17,610
Come and help me."

571
00:26:21,614 --> 00:26:23,049
It's hard to imagine

572
00:26:23,149 --> 00:26:25,518
what he must have been
going through, the fear,

573
00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:27,987
let alone what the people

574
00:26:28,088 --> 00:26:30,156
inflicting terror

575
00:26:30,657 --> 00:26:31,725
are going through.

576
00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:35,195
Because Preacher had
the right people working

577
00:26:35,295 --> 00:26:36,129
for him

578
00:26:36,229 --> 00:26:38,198
to do the job
that he wanted done.

579
00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:40,433
These type of people

580
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:42,135
are indeed...

581
00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:43,436
sick.

582
00:26:44,237 --> 00:26:45,538
These type of people

583
00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,607
are inspired more

584
00:26:48,074 --> 00:26:49,376
by the behavior.

585
00:26:50,043 --> 00:26:51,678
It's almost orgasmic

586
00:26:52,846 --> 00:26:55,448
because the conscience
is not present...

587
00:26:56,716 --> 00:26:57,851
which allows them to

588
00:26:57,951 --> 00:27:00,086
do this ruthlessly

589
00:27:00,186 --> 00:27:02,689
without even thinking
that what they're doing

590
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:04,157
is something evil.

591
00:27:06,926 --> 00:27:09,062
To rescue his
little brother from Preacher

592
00:27:09,162 --> 00:27:11,398
and his sadistic crew,

593
00:27:11,498 --> 00:27:13,967
Rich Porter hatches
a desperate plan.

594
00:27:16,536 --> 00:27:18,338
The biggest drug dealer
at that time in Harlem

595
00:27:18,438 --> 00:27:19,472
was Fritz.

596
00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:24,344
Fritz gave Rich,
I think it was like

597
00:27:24,444 --> 00:27:27,380
25 or something keys of coke

598
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,648
and he gave Rich money.

599
00:27:29,249 --> 00:27:30,283
He told Rich,

600
00:27:30,383 --> 00:27:31,918
Sell it to whoever you want
to sell it for."

601
00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:33,787
Just get the money
to get your brother back."

602
00:27:33,887 --> 00:27:35,455
Fritz didn't want
nothing back.

603
00:27:38,391 --> 00:27:41,461
But then on January 4th, 1990,

604
00:27:41,561 --> 00:27:44,297
Rich Porter's body is found
in the Bronx.

605
00:27:47,701 --> 00:27:49,336
His body was
dropped on Orchard Beach,

606
00:27:49,436 --> 00:27:50,337
four weeks

607
00:27:51,004 --> 00:27:52,672
after Donnell was kidnapped,

608
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,209
and he had $2,000
in his pocket.

609
00:27:56,309 --> 00:27:58,511
So, the cops knew
it wasn't a robbery.

610
00:28:00,447 --> 00:28:02,582
After a lengthy investigation,

611
00:28:02,682 --> 00:28:04,517
the police
determined Rich Porter

612
00:28:04,617 --> 00:28:07,153
was murdered
by a rival drug dealer,

613
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:09,622
not Preacher and his crew.

614
00:28:09,723 --> 00:28:12,025
It had nothing to do with
the kidnapping of his brother.

615
00:28:12,926 --> 00:28:13,860
But the murder

616
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,729
seals Donnell's fate.

617
00:28:16,696 --> 00:28:18,231
Once Rich Porter died,

618
00:28:18,331 --> 00:28:20,066
the hopes for getting Donnell

619
00:28:20,834 --> 00:28:22,502
kind of died with him.

620
00:28:22,602 --> 00:28:25,972
Now there's nobody
to pay the ransom.

621
00:28:26,072 --> 00:28:28,775
The kidnappers probably
realized they weren't
gonna get the money.

622
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,910
And since Donnell
could identify them,

623
00:28:31,011 --> 00:28:32,012
they killed him.

624
00:28:39,853 --> 00:28:41,054
On January 28th,

625
00:28:41,521 --> 00:28:42,989
seven weeks

626
00:28:43,089 --> 00:28:44,958
after Donnell was kidnapped,

627
00:28:45,058 --> 00:28:46,159
a homeless man

628
00:28:46,893 --> 00:28:48,395
found Donnell's body

629
00:28:48,495 --> 00:28:51,931
not too far from
his brother's in the Bronx

630
00:28:52,032 --> 00:28:53,566
on a bike path,

631
00:28:53,667 --> 00:28:56,436
wrapped in black garbage bags
like trash.

632
00:29:01,641 --> 00:29:02,876
I couldn't imagine somebody

633
00:29:03,276 --> 00:29:05,011
harming you

634
00:29:05,111 --> 00:29:08,048
in that fashion
because it's not deserving.

635
00:29:08,148 --> 00:29:09,549
Like your child,
the innocence of it all,

636
00:29:09,649 --> 00:29:12,085
or somebody who
you would consider

637
00:29:12,185 --> 00:29:13,920
outside the scope
of what we were doing.

638
00:29:15,455 --> 00:29:18,191
And maybe
they didn't let him go
because he knew their faces.

639
00:29:18,291 --> 00:29:20,860
Like, I'm trying
to understand,

640
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,263
and it's something that
I will never understand.

641
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:28,201
Things changed for Harlem,

642
00:29:28,301 --> 00:29:29,669
'cause we've never
had that before.

643
00:29:30,704 --> 00:29:33,239
The FBI and NYPD,

644
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:34,808
they formed a task force,

645
00:29:34,908 --> 00:29:36,943
because we're talking
about a child

646
00:29:37,043 --> 00:29:38,578
that's now been pulled

647
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:40,480
into this madness.

648
00:29:42,182 --> 00:29:44,217
We had
an old Irish supervisor,

649
00:29:44,317 --> 00:29:45,352
and he said,

650
00:29:45,452 --> 00:29:47,520
"Who is the biggest,
baddest in Harlem?"

651
00:29:48,221 --> 00:29:50,724
And we all answered in unison,

652
00:29:50,824 --> 00:29:51,758
uh, "Clarence Heatley."

653
00:29:53,893 --> 00:29:55,462
That's how
the investigation got going.

654
00:29:56,563 --> 00:29:58,231
Myself and Jay Maher,

655
00:29:58,331 --> 00:30:00,500
who worked out of
the precinct in Harlem,

656
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,902
he was one of the backbones
of the investigation.

657
00:30:03,003 --> 00:30:05,705
So now we had
the FBI coming on board,

658
00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:08,441
and they went over
my flow chart.

659
00:30:08,541 --> 00:30:10,043
And it was decided
that's good stuff.

660
00:30:11,044 --> 00:30:13,113
So that's how
the Preacher case started.

661
00:30:13,213 --> 00:30:14,247
So now,

662
00:30:14,347 --> 00:30:16,182
how are we gonna
get Clarence Heatley?

663
00:30:18,918 --> 00:30:21,354
What can we do to bring
Clarence Heatley to justice?

664
00:30:23,156 --> 00:30:24,791
Before the Donnell kidnapping,

665
00:30:24,891 --> 00:30:26,960
nobody, and I mean nobody,

666
00:30:27,060 --> 00:30:28,194
would talk about Preacher.

667
00:30:29,429 --> 00:30:31,998
After Donnell Porter's body
was found,

668
00:30:32,098 --> 00:30:34,034
now it's a cat and mouse game.

669
00:30:34,134 --> 00:30:36,169
Okay. Now we have to

670
00:30:36,269 --> 00:30:38,138
bring justice for Donnell.

671
00:30:38,238 --> 00:30:40,306
We have to bring justice
to all these other families.

672
00:30:40,407 --> 00:30:41,808
You know, we have
to get this guy.

673
00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:46,646
When most criminals find out

674
00:30:46,746 --> 00:30:48,782
they're being hunted
by the FBI,

675
00:30:48,882 --> 00:30:50,417
they lay low.

676
00:30:50,517 --> 00:30:53,586
But Clarence Heatley
isn't most criminals.

677
00:30:53,687 --> 00:30:55,422
Even with
the feds watching him,

678
00:30:55,522 --> 00:30:58,458
he's rumored to have committed
his most daring crime yet.

679
00:30:58,992 --> 00:31:00,560
And his alleged victim

680
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,495
is a pop culture icon.

681
00:31:17,544 --> 00:31:19,679
Preacher and his crew
with John Cuff

682
00:31:19,779 --> 00:31:21,081
decided that they wanted to go

683
00:31:21,181 --> 00:31:24,050
to Jersey to go gambling.

684
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:25,785
They sat at a table.

685
00:31:25,885 --> 00:31:26,853
And at the end of the night,

686
00:31:26,953 --> 00:31:29,322
some guys from Jersey
is sat there.

687
00:31:29,422 --> 00:31:30,824
They're telling war stories.

688
00:31:32,525 --> 00:31:33,860
The guy from Jersey said,

689
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,795
"If we catch this dude,
Bobby Brown,

690
00:31:36,763 --> 00:31:37,597
we're gonna kill him."

691
00:31:38,865 --> 00:31:40,100
One of the guys is asking,

692
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,068
"Why are you going
to do that?"

693
00:31:42,168 --> 00:31:44,337
He said, "Because he borrowed
a key of coke from us,

694
00:31:44,871 --> 00:31:46,006
and he disappeared."

695
00:31:48,808 --> 00:31:51,411
Meanwhile, Bobby and Whitney
get a house in Jersey.

696
00:31:51,945 --> 00:31:53,079
And these guys

697
00:31:53,179 --> 00:31:54,514
see Bobby Brown every night

698
00:31:54,614 --> 00:31:56,816
because he's at
that club in New York.

699
00:31:58,118 --> 00:32:00,120
All the stars hung out
at that club.

700
00:32:00,820 --> 00:32:01,921
I hung out in Harlem,

701
00:32:02,022 --> 00:32:03,757
you know, during the '90s.

702
00:32:03,857 --> 00:32:05,458
Whenever I wasn't on tour,

703
00:32:05,558 --> 00:32:07,894
you know, I had
a bunch of friends that

704
00:32:08,361 --> 00:32:09,129
lived in Harlem

705
00:32:09,229 --> 00:32:10,663
that I would hang out with.

706
00:32:10,764 --> 00:32:12,432
Preacher asked
the Jersey guys,

707
00:32:12,532 --> 00:32:13,767
"How much does he owe you?"

708
00:32:13,867 --> 00:32:16,803
He said, "He owes us $25,000."

709
00:32:17,604 --> 00:32:18,805
So he said,
"I'll tell you what,

710
00:32:18,905 --> 00:32:20,507
let me buy that beef from you.

711
00:32:20,607 --> 00:32:21,608
I'll give you $10,000,

712
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,476
it's no longer
your problem, it's mine."

713
00:32:23,576 --> 00:32:25,478
The dude was like,
"yeah."

714
00:32:25,578 --> 00:32:28,348
Preacher often bought debt

715
00:32:28,448 --> 00:32:30,750
from other crews
and other gangs.

716
00:32:30,850 --> 00:32:33,620
And as any loan shark
would do,

717
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,721
they would up the ante,

718
00:32:35,488 --> 00:32:37,223
which is what Preacher did.

719
00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:39,793
Preacher, he upped
the price to $400,000.

720
00:32:39,893 --> 00:32:41,561
That's not what it was before.

721
00:32:41,661 --> 00:32:42,729
You know, at the beginning.

722
00:32:45,165 --> 00:32:47,701
Bobby Brown let them know,
"I can't come up with that.'

723
00:32:51,338 --> 00:32:53,273
They go back to Harlem
and they get this girl

724
00:32:53,373 --> 00:32:56,076
from the projects
who's absolutely beautiful.

725
00:32:57,444 --> 00:32:58,478
Get her dressed up,

726
00:32:59,312 --> 00:33:00,413
send her to the club.

727
00:33:02,082 --> 00:33:02,982
At that time,

728
00:33:03,083 --> 00:33:04,351
in the clubs, you know,

729
00:33:04,451 --> 00:33:07,253
you'd see all sorts
of types of people.

730
00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:08,988
Uh, the hoods would be there,

731
00:33:09,089 --> 00:33:11,391
you'd see lots of females,

732
00:33:12,192 --> 00:33:13,326
skimpy dresses.

733
00:33:13,426 --> 00:33:14,861
It was just that time.

734
00:33:15,829 --> 00:33:17,997
They said Bobby Brown
was all into her.

735
00:33:18,098 --> 00:33:19,399
And she was like,
"I can't hear you.

736
00:33:19,499 --> 00:33:21,501
Let's go outside and talk."

737
00:33:21,601 --> 00:33:23,470
Well, they started walking
down the street.

738
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:25,205
And Preacher and them
had a van

739
00:33:25,305 --> 00:33:26,172
sitting out there.

740
00:33:26,272 --> 00:33:27,607
And when he walked
past the van,

741
00:33:27,707 --> 00:33:29,776
they opened up the door
and pulled him in.

742
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:38,251
Heatley, um,

743
00:33:38,351 --> 00:33:40,320
I didn't know
of the crew back then.

744
00:33:40,420 --> 00:33:43,056
I only found out
about them, um,

745
00:33:44,057 --> 00:33:45,792
around ten years ago.

746
00:33:49,963 --> 00:33:51,664
It was funny because I know

747
00:33:51,765 --> 00:33:53,900
nothing like that
ever happened to me.

748
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,535
They took Bobby Brown
to the Bronx.

749
00:33:56,369 --> 00:33:57,737
Malik stripped him

750
00:33:58,872 --> 00:33:59,939
and hog tied him.

751
00:34:01,241 --> 00:34:02,942
They basically told him

752
00:34:03,043 --> 00:34:04,044
to call Whitney

753
00:34:04,844 --> 00:34:06,980
and that they wanted $400,000

754
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,148
or they were gonna kill him.

755
00:34:09,215 --> 00:34:10,717
I've never been kidnapped.

756
00:34:10,817 --> 00:34:11,951
I've never,

757
00:34:12,052 --> 00:34:14,888
um, had a debt
with any drug dealers.

758
00:34:14,988 --> 00:34:17,290
I kind of took it
really personal

759
00:34:17,390 --> 00:34:19,025
that, um, my name would be

760
00:34:20,193 --> 00:34:22,529
mentioned in
such a dark light.

761
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:25,498
I didn't want my name
to be associated with

762
00:34:26,232 --> 00:34:27,667
anyone of that caliber.

763
00:34:27,767 --> 00:34:29,736
And I went to the house
and I seen him in there.

764
00:34:31,938 --> 00:34:32,939
I don't know

765
00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:35,675
if it happened or not.

766
00:34:35,775 --> 00:34:37,711
If it happened,
it was definitely brazen,

767
00:34:37,811 --> 00:34:38,945
definitely bold.

768
00:34:39,045 --> 00:34:40,947
But he probably knew
he could get the money.

769
00:34:42,382 --> 00:34:43,416
Whitney was from the streets.

770
00:34:43,516 --> 00:34:44,317
She's from Newark.

771
00:34:47,053 --> 00:34:48,021
So she's been around

772
00:34:48,121 --> 00:34:50,056
and she probably understood
what was going on.

773
00:34:50,757 --> 00:34:52,058
She loved that guy.

774
00:34:53,293 --> 00:34:54,928
She came there by herself

775
00:34:55,729 --> 00:34:58,498
with a wig and big glasses on

776
00:34:58,598 --> 00:34:59,599
with a bag full of money.

777
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,468
Went up to the house.

778
00:35:03,036 --> 00:35:04,504
They said she threw
the bag down...

779
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:07,140
and said, "Where the
Bobby at?

780
00:35:08,041 --> 00:35:09,542
Got in the room, untied him

781
00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:11,644
and took him home.

782
00:35:12,746 --> 00:35:15,515
Preacher said that
Whitney was a gangster.

783
00:35:16,983 --> 00:35:19,119
She came into the Bronx
by herself

784
00:35:19,219 --> 00:35:20,720
with 400 grand.

785
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:23,356
And then cussed him out
when she paid him.

786
00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:25,358
And he envied her.

787
00:35:25,458 --> 00:35:26,326
He liked her.

788
00:35:30,196 --> 00:35:32,432
The incident never happened.

789
00:35:32,532 --> 00:35:34,801
I don't know how they
connected my name

790
00:35:34,901 --> 00:35:37,103
or even my ex-wife's name

791
00:35:37,570 --> 00:35:38,405
to that crew.

792
00:35:39,305 --> 00:35:42,275
And I really wanted to clear

793
00:35:42,909 --> 00:35:44,778
the air about me

794
00:35:44,878 --> 00:35:46,813
owing somebody for drugs.

795
00:35:46,913 --> 00:35:48,782
I've never have
and I never will.

796
00:35:50,083 --> 00:35:51,418
I am working on me.

797
00:35:51,518 --> 00:35:53,019
God is still working on me.

798
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:54,254
And, um,

799
00:35:54,354 --> 00:35:56,022
you know, I like
to keep it that way.

800
00:35:58,725 --> 00:36:01,161
If Bobby Brown's
run-in with the Preacher Crew

801
00:36:01,261 --> 00:36:02,796
did actually happen,

802
00:36:02,896 --> 00:36:04,764
we know he survived.

803
00:36:04,864 --> 00:36:07,567
Most of Preacher's enemies
aren't so lucky.

804
00:36:21,247 --> 00:36:23,283
In the early 1990s,

805
00:36:23,383 --> 00:36:24,984
one of Harlem's drug dealers

806
00:36:25,085 --> 00:36:28,088
was named
"Small Paul" Singleton.

807
00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:30,657
He allegedly owed
Preacher money.

808
00:36:30,757 --> 00:36:32,826
And Preacher came knocking.

809
00:36:32,926 --> 00:36:34,361
When Preacher
asked for the money,

810
00:36:34,861 --> 00:36:35,962
he was laughed at.

811
00:36:36,062 --> 00:36:38,465
"Like, man, you're pressing me
about some money, man.

812
00:36:38,565 --> 00:36:39,766
You got all the money
in the world."

813
00:36:40,867 --> 00:36:43,703
And that was the end
of his life, right there.

814
00:36:43,803 --> 00:36:45,739
All he had to do was
give him the money. He had it.

815
00:36:46,973 --> 00:36:49,376
They lured Small Paul

816
00:36:49,476 --> 00:36:50,977
to a location where

817
00:36:51,077 --> 00:36:53,113
he was eventually brought
to the Bronx.

818
00:36:56,249 --> 00:36:57,517
When they were
in the basement,

819
00:36:57,617 --> 00:36:59,853
thumbs-down on Small Paul.

820
00:37:00,787 --> 00:37:01,654
They're gonna whack him.

821
00:37:05,959 --> 00:37:07,394
And from what I understand,

822
00:37:07,494 --> 00:37:08,928
he was sexually assaulted...

823
00:37:10,530 --> 00:37:11,664
after his murder.

824
00:37:22,375 --> 00:37:24,544
Post-mortem necrophilia.

825
00:37:25,111 --> 00:37:27,180
It is not about sex.

826
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,816
It's about dominance.
It's about power.

827
00:37:29,916 --> 00:37:31,418
It's about control.

828
00:37:31,518 --> 00:37:33,319
Well, there are
many commonalities

829
00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:35,221
that mirror other

830
00:37:35,321 --> 00:37:37,490
pathological serial killers.

831
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:39,693
Like Jeffrey Dahmer.

832
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:41,728
The rules had
to be adhered to,

833
00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:44,230
lest you, too,

834
00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:45,932
find yourself in the basement.

835
00:37:47,534 --> 00:37:49,235
That torture chamber.

836
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,275
Small Paul was killed
and put in bags

837
00:37:55,375 --> 00:37:56,976
and partial suitcases,

838
00:37:57,577 --> 00:37:59,279
and brought to Queens,

839
00:37:59,379 --> 00:38:00,547
and dumped back
in the neighborhood.

840
00:38:00,647 --> 00:38:02,182
Which, if you think about it,

841
00:38:02,282 --> 00:38:03,683
the Queens detectives

842
00:38:03,783 --> 00:38:06,052
are gonna think
it happened in Queens,

843
00:38:06,686 --> 00:38:07,854
and the Bronx detectives

844
00:38:07,954 --> 00:38:10,023
are never gonna know
it even happened there.

845
00:38:10,123 --> 00:38:12,392
It's actually
a really smart way of

846
00:38:12,492 --> 00:38:14,194
dividing and conquering
the police department,

847
00:38:14,294 --> 00:38:15,328
'cause the police department,

848
00:38:15,428 --> 00:38:16,863
really, in those days
in particular,

849
00:38:16,963 --> 00:38:19,933
was focused in the county
in which they sat.

850
00:38:20,033 --> 00:38:21,868
So if they found
a body in Queens,

851
00:38:21,968 --> 00:38:23,303
the detectives
who found the body

852
00:38:23,403 --> 00:38:24,804
wouldn't necessarily
be questioning

853
00:38:24,904 --> 00:38:26,539
a whole bunch of people
about what had happened,

854
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:27,807
in the Bronx or in Manhattan.

855
00:38:29,175 --> 00:38:32,379
One of the things
that made Preacher so unique

856
00:38:32,479 --> 00:38:34,481
was an air of invincibility.

857
00:38:34,581 --> 00:38:36,049
They thought of him
as like Superman.

858
00:38:36,149 --> 00:38:38,752
And with law enforcement,
he was

859
00:38:38,852 --> 00:38:39,986
virtually untouchable.

860
00:38:42,255 --> 00:38:44,924
After almost
four years of work,

861
00:38:45,025 --> 00:38:46,526
the federal task force

862
00:38:46,626 --> 00:38:49,229
still doesn't have
any evidence linking Preacher

863
00:38:49,329 --> 00:38:51,965
to the vicious crimes
they believe he's committed.

864
00:38:52,899 --> 00:38:55,101
Witnesses are
too scared to talk.

865
00:38:55,201 --> 00:38:57,270
So Detective Jay Maher

866
00:38:57,370 --> 00:38:58,938
gets more aggressive.

867
00:39:03,143 --> 00:39:05,278
I get a call from a source
telling me they just spotted

868
00:39:05,378 --> 00:39:07,947
Preacher's buddy, John Cuff.

869
00:39:08,048 --> 00:39:10,950
John Cuff was a former
housing authority cop

870
00:39:11,051 --> 00:39:12,085
in New York City

871
00:39:12,185 --> 00:39:14,487
who was capable of
running records, doing things.

872
00:39:15,121 --> 00:39:16,389
So I head over there

873
00:39:16,489 --> 00:39:18,358
and I pull him over
and I walk up.

874
00:39:18,458 --> 00:39:20,393
And sure enough,
it's Cuff driving.

875
00:39:21,194 --> 00:39:23,063
So he hands me
a driver's license.

876
00:39:23,163 --> 00:39:25,065
I know the name
on the driver's license

877
00:39:25,165 --> 00:39:26,032
is not John Cuff.

878
00:39:26,132 --> 00:39:28,201
But I also know
there was an employee

879
00:39:28,301 --> 00:39:30,503
in the Department
of Motor Vehicle in New Jersey

880
00:39:30,603 --> 00:39:33,106
that was selling
real licenses.

881
00:39:33,206 --> 00:39:34,708
So if I run this
in the computer,

882
00:39:34,808 --> 00:39:36,976
it's gonna come back real,
even though it's not him.

883
00:39:38,678 --> 00:39:41,214
So then we went through
this game where I said,

884
00:39:41,314 --> 00:39:42,282
"What's your name?"

885
00:39:42,382 --> 00:39:44,217
And his response was,
"You got my license."

886
00:39:44,818 --> 00:39:45,952
And I said,

887
00:39:46,052 --> 00:39:47,520
"Okay, step out of the car."

888
00:39:49,823 --> 00:39:51,825
I said, "John,
what's your name?"

889
00:39:51,925 --> 00:39:53,793
And he looks at me, he goes,
'You know my name?"

890
00:39:54,461 --> 00:39:55,662
I said, "Yeah."

891
00:39:55,762 --> 00:39:57,397
So I locked him up.

892
00:39:57,497 --> 00:39:59,733
So we go in and I'm doing
an inventory search.

893
00:39:59,833 --> 00:40:02,335
And in his wallet was a list.

894
00:40:03,203 --> 00:40:04,838
And it was several names.

895
00:40:04,938 --> 00:40:06,439
And it was actually,

896
00:40:06,539 --> 00:40:08,842
uh, not only names,
but relationships.

897
00:40:10,176 --> 00:40:12,412
All these different players

898
00:40:12,512 --> 00:40:14,481
and relationships,
or players themselves

899
00:40:14,581 --> 00:40:15,648
that are getting money.

900
00:40:16,916 --> 00:40:19,419
I figure
it's an extortion list
or a kidnap list.

901
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,321
So it would be like
what they were into.

902
00:40:21,421 --> 00:40:22,956
They would kidnap relatives

903
00:40:23,056 --> 00:40:25,258
or people associated
with these crews

904
00:40:25,358 --> 00:40:27,794
and then hold them
for money until they paid it.

905
00:40:29,429 --> 00:40:31,765
There's a copy machine
right in front of the cell,

906
00:40:31,865 --> 00:40:32,699
so I copied it.

907
00:40:33,667 --> 00:40:34,834
Then I gave him back
his copies,

908
00:40:34,934 --> 00:40:37,037
but I had my copy too.

909
00:40:37,137 --> 00:40:38,738
And I turned that over
to the FBI.

910
00:40:39,806 --> 00:40:41,908
I charged him
with criminal impersonation.

911
00:40:42,742 --> 00:40:44,144
The license is real.

912
00:40:44,244 --> 00:40:46,713
And so basically
they did nothing with that.

913
00:40:46,813 --> 00:40:47,981
He gets right back out.

914
00:40:49,249 --> 00:40:51,084
Like, when he was
walking out smiling,

915
00:40:51,184 --> 00:40:52,686
in your mind you're saying...

916
00:40:54,454 --> 00:40:55,422
I don't think I can
say on camera

917
00:40:55,522 --> 00:40:56,589
what my mind was saying, but,

918
00:40:57,323 --> 00:40:58,692
"You got off this time.

919
00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:00,293
But we're gonna dance
another day."

920
00:41:06,366 --> 00:41:09,436
Clarence Heatley's
right-hand man beats the case.

921
00:41:09,536 --> 00:41:10,904
But now Preacher knows

922
00:41:11,004 --> 00:41:13,840
investigators are
on to him and his crew.

923
00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:16,476
So he begins
tying up loose ends.

924
00:41:16,576 --> 00:41:19,646
Starting by taking out
his most deadly hitman.

925
00:41:28,888 --> 00:41:31,958
Malik Boatwright was
probably third in charge.

926
00:41:32,058 --> 00:41:33,793
He had Preacher's ear.

927
00:41:33,893 --> 00:41:36,062
Mallik had
prior military training.

928
00:41:37,530 --> 00:41:40,100
He clearly knew
how to fire a weapon.

929
00:41:40,633 --> 00:41:41,735
He was a marksman.

930
00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:43,470
So he was a trained killer.

931
00:41:45,238 --> 00:41:48,208
And he had
some personal problems
of his own.

932
00:41:49,642 --> 00:41:52,245
I heard that
he was abused by his father,

933
00:41:52,345 --> 00:41:53,913
and somehow,
he came to New York

934
00:41:54,014 --> 00:41:55,949
and got caught up
with Preacher and them.

935
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,122
Malik was devoted to
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley.

936
00:42:03,189 --> 00:42:06,659
Malik would do anything
for Preacher's love.

937
00:42:07,627 --> 00:42:11,698
Malik said that he would
give himself to him,

938
00:42:11,798 --> 00:42:12,932
and I believe he did.

939
00:42:16,336 --> 00:42:19,472
I believe Preacher and Malik
had a relationship,

940
00:42:19,572 --> 00:42:22,242
and Malik got into it

941
00:42:22,342 --> 00:42:24,010
with other guys in the crew

942
00:42:24,110 --> 00:42:26,846
because of the relationship
that he had with Preacher.

943
00:42:30,316 --> 00:42:31,718
It became an obsession

944
00:42:33,019 --> 00:42:36,189
where no one else could have

945
00:42:36,289 --> 00:42:39,893
that closeness to the Preacher
that he desired.

946
00:42:42,262 --> 00:42:47,167
But Malik was so violent
and so potentially problematic

947
00:42:47,267 --> 00:42:50,337
that his behavior
became unacceptable.

948
00:42:51,738 --> 00:42:55,709
I'd seen Malik go out
plenty of nights

949
00:42:55,809 --> 00:42:57,143
and it wasn't to go dancing.

950
00:43:01,181 --> 00:43:02,949
You'd hear about
the aftermath.

951
00:43:03,049 --> 00:43:04,517
"Somebody got killed
over here."

952
00:43:04,617 --> 00:43:05,985
"Somebody got killed
over there."

953
00:43:07,153 --> 00:43:10,523
He was just
killing people too much.

954
00:43:15,762 --> 00:43:18,198
They sent him to,
I think it was Georgia.

955
00:43:19,733 --> 00:43:22,736
Well, while he was there,
Preacher told John Cuff

956
00:43:22,836 --> 00:43:25,538
that, "Malik said
that he wanted to kill you."

957
00:43:26,539 --> 00:43:29,509
John said,
"Okay, well, that's it.

958
00:43:29,609 --> 00:43:30,877
He gots to go."

959
00:43:36,282 --> 00:43:37,684
They had their special vote

960
00:43:37,784 --> 00:43:39,886
and, you know,
Preacher voted thumbs down

961
00:43:39,986 --> 00:43:42,022
and everybody else
voted thumbs down.

962
00:43:44,391 --> 00:43:47,394
Now they had to
get Malik back, you know,
to the apartment.

963
00:43:47,494 --> 00:43:49,896
They brought Malik back on
to some, you know, story

964
00:43:49,996 --> 00:43:51,965
that they were gonna
kill somebody else,

965
00:43:52,065 --> 00:43:53,633
and then they brought Malik
down to the basement.

966
00:43:55,368 --> 00:43:58,171
He believed that someone else
is getting whacked,

967
00:43:58,271 --> 00:44:00,240
and, in fact,
he was the target.

968
00:44:03,410 --> 00:44:05,211
Then,
when he came back
and got out of the cab,

969
00:44:05,311 --> 00:44:06,446
I was in front of
the building.

970
00:44:06,546 --> 00:44:08,181
I seen him, I said,
"What's up, Malik?"

971
00:44:08,281 --> 00:44:09,783
You know, and he went
into the building,

972
00:44:09,883 --> 00:44:11,451
everyone was saying,
"What's up, Malik?"

973
00:44:13,753 --> 00:44:15,288
They all went
into the building

974
00:44:15,989 --> 00:44:17,424
and I never seen him again.

975
00:44:21,995 --> 00:44:24,964
They went
downstairs to the basement,

976
00:44:26,399 --> 00:44:27,934
and as they enter,

977
00:44:28,034 --> 00:44:31,104
Malik was turning on a radio.

978
00:44:34,441 --> 00:44:36,242
They were so
concerned about Malik

979
00:44:36,343 --> 00:44:38,912
because he was so good
at what he did that they
needed to sneak up on him.

980
00:44:42,649 --> 00:44:43,950
At that point...

981
00:44:45,352 --> 00:44:47,187
...John Cuff shot Malik
in the head...

982
00:44:48,688 --> 00:44:50,357
...as he was
turning up the radio.

983
00:44:57,564 --> 00:44:59,199
He was killed
in the very basement

984
00:44:59,299 --> 00:45:03,103
that he had
supervised the execution
of other individuals.

985
00:45:05,805 --> 00:45:07,040
This is a killer

986
00:45:09,909 --> 00:45:11,244
and crew

987
00:45:13,446 --> 00:45:16,016
that killed indiscriminately,

988
00:45:16,783 --> 00:45:19,419
that tortured indiscriminately

989
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,455
in the very building
operated by the Preacher,

990
00:45:23,957 --> 00:45:26,092
and I suspect
it occurred in one place

991
00:45:26,192 --> 00:45:27,761
'cause it was
easily manageable.

992
00:45:34,668 --> 00:45:37,270
Preacher wanted
his body dismembered,

993
00:45:38,071 --> 00:45:40,106
and that's what they did,

994
00:45:40,206 --> 00:45:41,508
they cut Malik's body up.

995
00:45:43,777 --> 00:45:46,546
They were cutting up
the torso,

996
00:45:46,646 --> 00:45:48,148
well, with an electric saw...

997
00:45:49,649 --> 00:45:52,085
...and then the blade
got entangled with
the large intestine.

998
00:45:54,354 --> 00:45:57,057
When they switched out
the blade of the skill saw,

999
00:45:57,157 --> 00:45:58,591
they tossed it
over their shoulder

1000
00:45:58,692 --> 00:46:01,061
and threw it into
the corner of the basement.

1001
00:46:03,196 --> 00:46:06,032
But then they were
extremely careful

1002
00:46:06,132 --> 00:46:09,336
about washing down
the basement floor
with acetone.

1003
00:46:09,436 --> 00:46:12,339
You could eat off
the basement floor
even after a murder.

1004
00:46:14,307 --> 00:46:17,410
They took
Malik's head and his arms

1005
00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:18,945
in a knapsack

1006
00:46:19,045 --> 00:46:21,014
to a location
on Bradhurst Avenue.

1007
00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:23,183
They were put
in the refrigerator overnight.

1008
00:46:23,283 --> 00:46:27,687
I know for a fact
that the head
was in the refrigerator

1009
00:46:27,787 --> 00:46:29,689
because, during the course
of the investigation,

1010
00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:31,825
I opened up the refrigerator
and all the blood was in there

1011
00:46:31,925 --> 00:46:33,560
and the blood
came back to Malik.

1012
00:46:33,660 --> 00:46:36,162
So they did decapitate him,
they did keep the head there,

1013
00:46:36,262 --> 00:46:39,399
and they did their thing
to try to, you know,
keep everybody in line.

1014
00:46:48,608 --> 00:46:51,511
The following day,
three or four of the crew

1015
00:46:51,611 --> 00:46:53,513
attempted to remove a tattoo.

1016
00:46:53,613 --> 00:46:56,383
It said, "Dad."

1017
00:46:58,451 --> 00:47:00,320
That was the tattoo on the arm

1018
00:47:00,420 --> 00:47:02,689
that Preacher
wanted them to remove

1019
00:47:03,957 --> 00:47:07,093
because, if found, it could be
connected to Preacher.

1020
00:47:07,193 --> 00:47:09,462
They tried to remove
Malik's tattoo with acetone.

1021
00:47:10,663 --> 00:47:11,965
And it wasn't working,

1022
00:47:12,065 --> 00:47:15,502
so they took the bucket
with the body parts

1023
00:47:15,602 --> 00:47:19,305
over to the abandoned building
a couple of doors over

1024
00:47:19,406 --> 00:47:21,474
and they threw them down
into the building.

1025
00:47:24,077 --> 00:47:26,546
Once Preacher
found out about that,

1026
00:47:26,646 --> 00:47:30,750
he directed them
to retrieve the body parts.

1027
00:47:30,850 --> 00:47:33,653
He didn't want them found
in that building

1028
00:47:33,753 --> 00:47:35,822
because of the tattoo on arm.

1029
00:47:36,923 --> 00:47:39,993
They was trying
to retrieve body parts.

1030
00:47:43,296 --> 00:47:45,932
Pulled it out,
there was Malik's head,

1031
00:47:46,032 --> 00:47:47,667
and then they start
playing soccer with it.

1032
00:47:48,601 --> 00:47:50,003
Yeah.

1033
00:47:51,171 --> 00:47:52,172
Yeah.

1034
00:47:56,743 --> 00:47:59,212
We never saw any signs
of Malik, you know,

1035
00:47:59,312 --> 00:48:01,781
overstepping his bounds
or overstepping loyalty,

1036
00:48:03,083 --> 00:48:04,617
and if you're down
in the basement,

1037
00:48:04,718 --> 00:48:06,219
you know, sewing up his body,

1038
00:48:07,854 --> 00:48:10,623
and he hasn't done anything
to really deserve it,

1039
00:48:10,724 --> 00:48:12,192
what's going through
your mind?

1040
00:48:12,292 --> 00:48:13,760
You know, "Am I next?"

1041
00:48:15,328 --> 00:48:18,498
Because he was so ruthless
and they feared him so much,

1042
00:48:18,598 --> 00:48:20,667
even if they didn't
step out of line,

1043
00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:22,669
they knew they were
gonna be killed, so...

1044
00:48:22,769 --> 00:48:24,671
But, eventually,
it was Preacher

1045
00:48:24,771 --> 00:48:26,606
who was the undoing
of the crew.

1046
00:48:36,349 --> 00:48:37,283
Three months after

1047
00:48:37,384 --> 00:48:39,386
the brutal killing
of Malik Boatwright,

1048
00:48:39,486 --> 00:48:41,855
some of Preacher's
once loyal janitors

1049
00:48:41,955 --> 00:48:43,857
are terrified
they could be next.

1050
00:48:45,458 --> 00:48:47,394
With no idea
that his followers

1051
00:48:47,494 --> 00:48:49,429
are looking for
their exit strategy,

1052
00:48:50,397 --> 00:48:52,732
Preacher orders
yet another hit,

1053
00:48:52,832 --> 00:48:55,902
this time on a well known
Harlem drug dealer.

1054
00:48:57,070 --> 00:48:58,471
There was
a double murder...

1055
00:49:00,106 --> 00:49:01,775
...at 120th and 7th Avenue

1056
00:49:01,875 --> 00:49:04,144
that was carried out
by the Preacher crew.

1057
00:49:06,713 --> 00:49:08,648
It was a person
named James Brunson.

1058
00:49:08,748 --> 00:49:10,316
His nickname was Jamie O,

1059
00:49:11,651 --> 00:49:13,019
and then there was Ali-MO,

1060
00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:14,954
whose name was Alex Brown.

1061
00:49:16,890 --> 00:49:18,625
I was supposed to
kill Jamie O.

1062
00:49:19,192 --> 00:49:20,193
Roger that.

1063
00:49:21,327 --> 00:49:22,896
Ali-MO
reached for a pistol,

1064
00:49:22,996 --> 00:49:24,864
and I ended up
shooting him once.

1065
00:49:27,167 --> 00:49:29,336
I shot Jamie O
in the head 13 times

1066
00:49:32,305 --> 00:49:35,275
'cause I was told
to close his casket.

1067
00:49:39,379 --> 00:49:41,648
My friend Jamie O
was definitely killed

1068
00:49:41,748 --> 00:49:44,751
by Preacher and his crew.

1069
00:49:44,851 --> 00:49:47,787
I got the phone call
and I was like, "Oh, wow,"

1070
00:49:49,055 --> 00:49:51,224
and I ran down to 7th Avenue

1071
00:49:51,324 --> 00:49:52,859
and I saw him
laying down on the ground.

1072
00:49:54,794 --> 00:49:58,665
Growing up in Harlem,
and seeing death a lot,

1073
00:49:58,765 --> 00:50:00,133
you kinda get numb to it.

1074
00:50:01,801 --> 00:50:04,304
At first,
it looks as if Preacher

1075
00:50:04,404 --> 00:50:06,973
is going to get away
with murder,

1076
00:50:07,073 --> 00:50:10,377
but after
working for four years
to uncover enough evidence

1077
00:50:10,477 --> 00:50:15,315
to charge the most
dangerous man in Harlem
with something, anything,

1078
00:50:15,415 --> 00:50:18,551
Jay Maher gets a big break.

1079
00:50:18,651 --> 00:50:19,953
I walk into
the detective squad

1080
00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:22,789
and in the pen is the owner
and manager of a store,

1081
00:50:22,889 --> 00:50:25,358
I nicknamed him "Sunshine."

1082
00:50:25,458 --> 00:50:27,994
So I said, "Sunshine,
what are you doing here?"
I thought he got robbed.

1083
00:50:28,094 --> 00:50:29,462
He goes,
"I need to speak to you.

1084
00:50:31,131 --> 00:50:33,199
I have someone
that wants to meet with you,

1085
00:50:33,299 --> 00:50:34,701
and he wants your help.

1086
00:50:34,801 --> 00:50:35,769
He's scared."

1087
00:50:35,869 --> 00:50:37,604
And I said, "Who's that?"

1088
00:50:37,704 --> 00:50:39,539
And he told me, "Larry Love."

1089
00:50:41,007 --> 00:50:45,178
Larry Love
allegedly peddles PCP,
angel dust,

1090
00:50:45,278 --> 00:50:46,680
on the streets of Harlem.

1091
00:50:49,683 --> 00:50:52,352
I said, "Larry Love
wants to come talk to me?"

1092
00:50:52,452 --> 00:50:54,654
And he said,
"Yes, but not here."

1093
00:50:55,555 --> 00:50:57,390
So, if you come
to my apartment tonight,

1094
00:50:57,490 --> 00:50:59,826
I'll send my family away
and you can meet him.

1095
00:51:01,528 --> 00:51:03,763
So I went to the Bronx
with my partner.

1096
00:51:03,863 --> 00:51:05,799
Larry Love comes
into the apartment,

1097
00:51:05,899 --> 00:51:08,768
he sits down,
and we begin talking,

1098
00:51:08,868 --> 00:51:11,705
and he tells me,
"You know about
my boy, Jamie O?"

1099
00:51:11,805 --> 00:51:14,808
I said, "Yeah, I know
what happened to Jamie O
and Ali-MO."

1100
00:51:16,443 --> 00:51:17,911
So, now he starts
talking about

1101
00:51:18,011 --> 00:51:19,612
it was the Preacher crew

1102
00:51:19,713 --> 00:51:22,048
and they're coming
after him now. He's afraid.

1103
00:51:25,618 --> 00:51:27,854
I said,
"Why is this going on?"

1104
00:51:27,954 --> 00:51:30,924
They want his business.
His business was called Milk,

1105
00:51:31,024 --> 00:51:34,327
and it was nicknamed Milk
because it was angel dust,

1106
00:51:34,427 --> 00:51:37,530
but they bought it
in such large quantities

1107
00:51:37,630 --> 00:51:39,366
that you can't put it
in a regular container,

1108
00:51:39,466 --> 00:51:41,668
it had to be put
in a glass milk bottle.

1109
00:51:42,969 --> 00:51:46,106
Jamie O and Ali-MO
were also partners,

1110
00:51:46,206 --> 00:51:48,041
and pushed back on Preacher,

1111
00:51:48,141 --> 00:51:49,242
and that's why
they were killed.

1112
00:51:49,342 --> 00:51:50,677
Now they're coming for him.

1113
00:51:51,578 --> 00:51:53,446
So he told me
he needs my help.

1114
00:51:55,749 --> 00:51:57,984
Larry will testify
that Preacher and his crew

1115
00:51:58,084 --> 00:52:00,086
committed several murders

1116
00:52:00,186 --> 00:52:02,122
if the government
will protect him.

1117
00:52:02,222 --> 00:52:04,657
Jay Maher needs to
run this request

1118
00:52:04,758 --> 00:52:06,292
up his chain of command.

1119
00:52:08,061 --> 00:52:09,729
I can't remember
how many days later it was

1120
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:11,431
that my pager
starts going off,

1121
00:52:11,531 --> 00:52:14,634
and it's Larry Love's code,

1122
00:52:14,734 --> 00:52:17,470
and a phone number,
and then 911, 911 .

1123
00:52:18,238 --> 00:52:19,572
So now I get up and I call

1124
00:52:19,673 --> 00:52:23,209
and it's a payphone
in the courthouse
at 100 Centre Street,

1125
00:52:23,309 --> 00:52:24,744
and he says,
"They're out there right now.

1126
00:52:24,844 --> 00:52:27,047
They're sitting in a van
right next to my car.

1127
00:52:27,147 --> 00:52:29,015
Cuff and Preacher are in there
and they're gonna kill me."

1128
00:52:31,484 --> 00:52:33,253
This particular individual
had what we call in the trade,

1129
00:52:33,353 --> 00:52:35,255
he had street cred.

1130
00:52:35,355 --> 00:52:38,458
So when this guy, who had
committed murders himself,

1131
00:52:38,558 --> 00:52:41,194
is talking about
getting murdered,

1132
00:52:41,294 --> 00:52:42,429
and you could
hear in his voice

1133
00:52:42,529 --> 00:52:44,998
how scared he was,
we went into action.

1134
00:52:45,098 --> 00:52:47,033
So I said, "Okay,
stay in the courthouse.

1135
00:52:47,133 --> 00:52:48,435
Let me get
some people down there."

1136
00:52:50,637 --> 00:52:54,741
This is a criminal courthouse,
and it's around lunchtime.

1137
00:52:54,841 --> 00:52:57,644
I know these people are nuts,
but that's nuts.

1138
00:52:57,744 --> 00:52:59,245
The middle of the afternoon
in front of a courthouse,

1139
00:52:59,346 --> 00:53:01,181
they're gonna
try to whack somebody?

1140
00:53:04,184 --> 00:53:07,253
So I get down there,
and I see the van

1141
00:53:07,354 --> 00:53:09,656
and I could see,
from the side mirrors,

1142
00:53:09,756 --> 00:53:11,257
there's people
sitting in the van,

1143
00:53:11,358 --> 00:53:13,093
and they're right next to
Larry Love's car,

1144
00:53:14,394 --> 00:53:16,463
and then, for some reason,

1145
00:53:16,563 --> 00:53:18,264
Larry Love comes
walking out of the courthouse,

1146
00:53:18,365 --> 00:53:20,200
even though I told not to,

1147
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:22,535
and he runs
across the parking lot
and jumps in the car,

1148
00:53:22,635 --> 00:53:25,171
and it's like, "Oh, great."

1149
00:53:25,271 --> 00:53:27,207
The cooperating witness
panics.

1150
00:53:27,307 --> 00:53:29,075
He throws it in reverse
and takes off

1151
00:53:29,843 --> 00:53:32,212
and goes the wrong way.

1152
00:53:32,312 --> 00:53:34,414
The traffic's coming this way.
He's backing up
into the traffic.

1153
00:53:36,383 --> 00:53:38,852
He must have went
about 8 or 10 blocks

1154
00:53:38,952 --> 00:53:39,953
against the traffic...

1155
00:53:41,855 --> 00:53:44,457
...and if you watched it
unfold before your eyes,

1156
00:53:44,557 --> 00:53:46,192
he was a pretty
damn good driver

1157
00:53:46,292 --> 00:53:47,394
'cause he didn't
hit any of the cars

1158
00:53:47,494 --> 00:53:49,295
that were coming
right towards him.

1159
00:53:49,396 --> 00:53:51,831
So, now I see the van's
reverse lights come on,

1160
00:53:51,931 --> 00:53:53,767
so I start running
towards the van,

1161
00:53:53,867 --> 00:53:56,569
and Cuff
looks over his shoulder
and sees me

1162
00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:58,004
and stops just for a second,

1163
00:53:58,104 --> 00:54:01,341
and takes off with traffic,
the opposite way.

1164
00:54:02,709 --> 00:54:04,077
So now the chase is on.

1165
00:54:05,045 --> 00:54:06,980
We're running on foot
through traffic.

1166
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,583
And we're running,
and now all chaos
has broken loose.

1167
00:54:10,684 --> 00:54:12,118
All these people
that are there for court,

1168
00:54:12,218 --> 00:54:13,920
they're law
enforcement officers,

1169
00:54:14,020 --> 00:54:16,356
all get involved in the chase.

1170
00:54:16,456 --> 00:54:18,291
I remember we went over
the city wide radio,

1171
00:54:18,391 --> 00:54:20,393
"Three guys
running with guns."

1172
00:54:20,493 --> 00:54:21,528
They didn't know we were cops.

1173
00:54:23,096 --> 00:54:24,898
We'll, to make
a long story short,
we get to the van.

1174
00:54:24,998 --> 00:54:27,701
It's Preacher,
it is John Cuff in the van...

1175
00:54:29,669 --> 00:54:32,639
...and we pull them over,
we pull them out of the van,

1176
00:54:32,739 --> 00:54:35,909
and inside the van
are Halloween masks,

1177
00:54:36,009 --> 00:54:39,212
duct tape, ties,
and a lead pipe.

1178
00:54:39,312 --> 00:54:41,348
You know, it doesn't take
a rocket scientist

1179
00:54:41,448 --> 00:54:43,149
to figure out
what was gonna happen.

1180
00:54:45,518 --> 00:54:47,187
Of course,
we lock 'em up on the spot.

1181
00:54:49,456 --> 00:54:51,558
But the US Attorney
said we don't have anything
to hold 'em on.

1182
00:54:51,658 --> 00:54:53,727
Two and two makes four
with the masks and the pipe

1183
00:54:53,827 --> 00:54:55,161
and the flex ties
and everything,

1184
00:54:56,096 --> 00:54:58,198
but he didn't
commit the covert act.

1185
00:54:58,298 --> 00:55:01,034
He didn't get out of the van
and kidnap the CW
and kill him.

1186
00:55:03,837 --> 00:55:06,006
So he was eventually released.

1187
00:55:06,106 --> 00:55:07,874
And I'll never forget,
you know,

1188
00:55:07,974 --> 00:55:10,243
when he was released,
he had to walk right by us,

1189
00:55:10,343 --> 00:55:12,679
and he just looked at us
and smiled

1190
00:55:12,779 --> 00:55:14,781
like, "You're never
gonna get me."

1191
00:55:16,916 --> 00:55:20,687
Preacher is off the hook
and back on the street

1192
00:55:20,787 --> 00:55:23,723
where his murderous
rampage continues.

1193
00:55:31,197 --> 00:55:33,667
When Sheila Berry
was murdered,
it was heartbreaking.

1194
00:55:34,534 --> 00:55:37,170
She was a victim
in all sense of the word.

1195
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:39,606
I mean,
put it in capital letters.

1196
00:55:39,706 --> 00:55:41,074
She was sweet.

1197
00:55:41,174 --> 00:55:43,576
Had she had her life together,
she would have been
a nice person.

1198
00:55:43,677 --> 00:55:48,014
Sheila would sometimes
transport drugs.

1199
00:55:48,114 --> 00:55:50,283
Not too often because
she was a drug addict,

1200
00:55:50,383 --> 00:55:52,185
so Preacher
couldn't trust her.

1201
00:55:54,187 --> 00:55:55,288
What happened was

1202
00:55:55,388 --> 00:55:57,991
Preacher's crew had ripped off
another drug dealer,

1203
00:55:58,091 --> 00:55:59,259
and they weren't
gonna pay him.

1204
00:56:01,728 --> 00:56:06,433
They decided to,
"Okay, let's play it off
on somebody else."

1205
00:56:06,533 --> 00:56:08,501
So they told
the other drug dealers

1206
00:56:08,601 --> 00:56:11,571
that Sheila Berry
had ripped them off

1207
00:56:11,671 --> 00:56:12,939
and that they would
take care of it.

1208
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:18,878
I was told
she stole some work.

1209
00:56:19,579 --> 00:56:20,914
So, if you steal...

1210
00:56:21,848 --> 00:56:23,016
I'm a janitor.

1211
00:56:23,116 --> 00:56:24,517
If I was around at the time,

1212
00:56:24,617 --> 00:56:26,619
I'd probably be the one
that have killed her.

1213
00:56:29,289 --> 00:56:32,892
She was an aspiring
rap artist slash actress,

1214
00:56:32,992 --> 00:56:35,095
but really into music,

1215
00:56:35,195 --> 00:56:36,963
so they brought her
up to the apartment,

1216
00:56:37,063 --> 00:56:39,666
and the guys, they wanted her
to listen to another track

1217
00:56:39,766 --> 00:56:41,768
that would help
her music career...

1218
00:56:43,603 --> 00:56:46,139
-...and they put
headphones on her and...

1219
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,507
...they shot her in the head.

1220
00:56:51,511 --> 00:56:55,448
Sheila,
everyone knew that
she didn't steal no drugs.

1221
00:56:56,316 --> 00:56:58,118
They knew she didn't do it,

1222
00:56:58,218 --> 00:57:00,553
but the blame died with her.

1223
00:57:03,289 --> 00:57:06,159
These countless
number of killings

1224
00:57:06,259 --> 00:57:09,829
are a reflection of
the intensity of Preacher

1225
00:57:09,929 --> 00:57:13,733
that allows him to order death

1226
00:57:13,833 --> 00:57:17,737
in a way that
makes him a terrorist.

1227
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:20,373
And they
took her body,

1228
00:57:20,473 --> 00:57:22,308
and it was like
one or two buildings over,

1229
00:57:22,409 --> 00:57:25,378
it was abandoned
and it was all boarded up.

1230
00:57:26,279 --> 00:57:28,481
But there was
a hole in the roof,

1231
00:57:28,581 --> 00:57:30,617
so they brought her body
across the rooftops

1232
00:57:30,717 --> 00:57:33,019
and they dumped the body
down into the building.

1233
00:57:38,391 --> 00:57:40,927
Sheila Berry joins
the long list of people

1234
00:57:41,027 --> 00:57:42,896
murdered by Preacher's crew,

1235
00:57:42,996 --> 00:57:46,166
who kill without question
on his command.

1236
00:57:46,266 --> 00:57:48,702
But whether Clarence Heatley
knows it or not,

1237
00:57:48,802 --> 00:57:51,171
the clock is ticking
on his reign of terror

1238
00:57:51,271 --> 00:57:52,906
and time is running out.

1239
00:58:02,982 --> 00:58:05,118
A CI,
a confidential informant,

1240
00:58:05,218 --> 00:58:07,721
told me what car
the Preacher was driving.

1241
00:58:07,821 --> 00:58:09,856
One day, while I was out,

1242
00:58:09,956 --> 00:58:11,558
I see the car,

1243
00:58:11,658 --> 00:58:13,760
and it's like three o'clock
in the afternoon,

1244
00:58:14,661 --> 00:58:17,063
and it pulls over
to a fire hydrant.

1245
00:58:17,163 --> 00:58:18,998
I'm with a rookie detective,
and I was like,

1246
00:58:19,099 --> 00:58:21,267
"I just need to stop this car
and check this guy out."

1247
00:58:22,702 --> 00:58:25,305
So I go to get out of the car.
Preacher comes out of the car,

1248
00:58:25,405 --> 00:58:26,673
turns towards me,

1249
00:58:27,974 --> 00:58:29,576
sees it's me and jumps back in

1250
00:58:30,276 --> 00:58:31,277
and he takes off.

1251
00:58:32,746 --> 00:58:34,814
-He's in a really fast
sports car.

1252
00:58:34,914 --> 00:58:36,149
So, I'm chasing him

1253
00:58:36,249 --> 00:58:39,586
at three o'clock
in the afternoon
down Bradhurst

1254
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,223
over to St. Nicholas Avenue,
up St. Nicholas Avenue,

1255
00:58:43,323 --> 00:58:45,225
on the wrong side of the road.

1256
00:58:47,527 --> 00:58:48,862
I'm able to get behind him,

1257
00:58:49,629 --> 00:58:51,464
but as I'm coming up
behind him,

1258
00:58:51,564 --> 00:58:53,066
another car gets between us.

1259
00:58:53,166 --> 00:58:55,869
He takes the first right
and gets stuck behind a truck.

1260
00:58:57,937 --> 00:58:59,272
But there's a car
in between us.

1261
00:58:59,372 --> 00:59:00,907
So I jump out now

1262
00:59:01,007 --> 00:59:04,711
and go to go towards Preacher,
but the truck move.

1263
00:59:07,247 --> 00:59:08,248
So when the truck moves,

1264
00:59:08,348 --> 00:59:09,516
Preacher's able
to get around it,

1265
00:59:11,584 --> 00:59:14,020
and I can't get around
the car in front of me,
and I lose him.

1266
00:59:18,124 --> 00:59:19,759
Preacher gets away,

1267
00:59:19,859 --> 00:59:23,730
but several weeks later,
the police track him down

1268
00:59:23,830 --> 00:59:26,232
and arrest him
for evading an officer

1269
00:59:26,332 --> 00:59:27,934
and reckless endangerment.

1270
00:59:28,802 --> 00:59:31,037
It's enough to keep him
behind bars...

1271
00:59:31,137 --> 00:59:33,273
...at least for now.

1272
00:59:35,875 --> 00:59:37,811
He gets put in
and held without bail,

1273
00:59:37,911 --> 00:59:40,347
and he's in
for a couple of months
before we go to trial.

1274
00:59:40,447 --> 00:59:43,650
I go to trial with Heatley
and he beats it.

1275
00:59:44,484 --> 00:59:45,618
He beat that case,

1276
00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:47,921
so what does that tell the
people in the street, right?

1277
00:59:48,021 --> 00:59:49,422
It fed into that legend

1278
00:59:49,522 --> 00:59:52,359
that no one's ever gonna
actually put this guy away,

1279
00:59:52,459 --> 00:59:53,893
and no one's
ever gonna catch him

1280
00:59:53,993 --> 00:59:57,997
because no one's
ever going to break
the loyalty oath to him,

1281
00:59:58,098 --> 01:00:00,300
and if they do,
they're gonna be dead
before they can testify.

1282
01:00:03,770 --> 01:00:05,105
After Preacher
gets off

1283
01:00:05,205 --> 01:00:08,274
the story went through
the streets of Harlem
like a wildfire,

1284
01:00:08,375 --> 01:00:10,810
you know, he was picked up,
the police couldn't
do anything.

1285
01:00:11,544 --> 01:00:13,246
So he started to think

1286
01:00:13,346 --> 01:00:16,549
he was even more invincible
than what he believed in.

1287
01:00:16,649 --> 01:00:19,719
Same thing happened with
the Italian mob in New York.

1288
01:00:19,819 --> 01:00:21,521
John Gotti beat the case,

1289
01:00:21,621 --> 01:00:23,823
and it ultimately
took the power
of the federal government

1290
01:00:23,923 --> 01:00:25,658
to go get him
and to finish him off.

1291
01:00:29,029 --> 01:00:30,497
Three years earlier,

1292
01:00:30,597 --> 01:00:33,700
the FBI finally put away
Preacher's idol,

1293
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,672
Gambino family crime boss
John Gotti, the "Teflon Don."

1294
01:00:38,772 --> 01:00:40,940
Perhaps to avoid
a similar fate,

1295
01:00:41,041 --> 01:00:43,243
Preacher goes on offense.

1296
01:00:43,343 --> 01:00:46,713
His top lieutenant,
former cop John Cuff,

1297
01:00:46,813 --> 01:00:49,749
has his own informant
inside the task force.

1298
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:54,454
John Cuff was
absolutely essential

1299
01:00:54,554 --> 01:00:56,456
for the Preacher and the crew.

1300
01:00:56,556 --> 01:00:57,691
Why?

1301
01:00:57,791 --> 01:01:01,061
Because he had access to the
law enforcement community.

1302
01:01:01,161 --> 01:01:03,263
The idea that there's
a police officer out there

1303
01:01:03,363 --> 01:01:08,268
who's working for
this big criminal organization
that kills people is scary.

1304
01:01:08,368 --> 01:01:10,437
So now
the information came out

1305
01:01:10,537 --> 01:01:13,406
that Cuff has someone
in the squad.

1306
01:01:14,507 --> 01:01:17,077
I was transferred, like that.

1307
01:01:17,177 --> 01:01:19,979
I found out the name
well after the fact,

1308
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,449
and it was a guy
that I considered a friend

1309
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:25,752
and I had worked with
for several years,

1310
01:01:25,852 --> 01:01:28,655
and if it had not been
for me reading this,

1311
01:01:28,755 --> 01:01:30,690
I would never
have believed it,

1312
01:01:31,725 --> 01:01:34,594
but now I know
why they moved so quickly

1313
01:01:34,694 --> 01:01:36,162
in moving me out of there.

1314
01:01:39,232 --> 01:01:40,533
I was made in undercover.

1315
01:01:40,633 --> 01:01:42,736
They took all my information,

1316
01:01:42,836 --> 01:01:44,204
literally all of
my information

1317
01:01:44,304 --> 01:01:45,505
out of the computer.

1318
01:01:45,605 --> 01:01:46,973
So I became a number.

1319
01:01:47,941 --> 01:01:50,043
I was given
confidential vehicles.

1320
01:01:50,143 --> 01:01:52,412
My personal plates
were red flagged,

1321
01:01:52,512 --> 01:01:55,448
which means,
if anybody runs my tags,

1322
01:01:55,548 --> 01:01:57,217
the department
is notified immediately,

1323
01:01:58,184 --> 01:01:59,419
and it turned out
that my plate

1324
01:01:59,519 --> 01:02:01,621
had been run several times.

1325
01:02:01,721 --> 01:02:03,156
So they wired up my house,

1326
01:02:03,256 --> 01:02:04,624
they had directed patrol...

1327
01:02:04,724 --> 01:02:06,793
I lived in an area that was
patrolled by state police,

1328
01:02:06,893 --> 01:02:10,363
so if an alarm went off,
they would respond.

1329
01:02:10,463 --> 01:02:12,098
They couldn't take me
off the case at the time

1330
01:02:12,198 --> 01:02:14,567
because I was
the only one that actually
knew the players.

1331
01:02:15,235 --> 01:02:16,503
So I had to stay in it.

1332
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,443
I had, I think,
eight, seven, four,

1333
01:02:23,543 --> 01:02:25,145
and an infant. It sucked.

1334
01:02:26,813 --> 01:02:31,051
This was around the clock
security on all of the kids,

1335
01:02:31,151 --> 01:02:32,652
detectives sitting
at the schools,

1336
01:02:32,752 --> 01:02:34,788
taking them back and forth
to the schools,

1337
01:02:35,455 --> 01:02:37,691
going grocery shopping.

1338
01:02:37,791 --> 01:02:40,193
It was really crazy, intense.

1339
01:02:41,628 --> 01:02:43,630
Preacher is
fighting it out with the feds,

1340
01:02:44,731 --> 01:02:46,232
but there's also
trouble brewing

1341
01:02:46,332 --> 01:02:49,369
inside his own deadly crew

1342
01:02:49,469 --> 01:02:52,539
when Johnny "Apple" Porter,
the man who was allegedly

1343
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:57,043
involved in the murder
of his nephew, Donnell Porter,
gets out of line.

1344
01:02:57,711 --> 01:02:58,945
I was out of town

1345
01:02:59,045 --> 01:03:00,814
and Apple Porter

1346
01:03:02,082 --> 01:03:04,918
put his hands on my daughter
and tried to rape her.

1347
01:03:08,521 --> 01:03:09,756
I come home.

1348
01:03:10,557 --> 01:03:12,225
Two or three days later,

1349
01:03:12,325 --> 01:03:15,762
Apple Porter comes
running out of the building

1350
01:03:15,862 --> 01:03:17,697
and jumps into my front seat.

1351
01:03:18,631 --> 01:03:21,134
He wanted me
to drive him to Harlem

1352
01:03:21,234 --> 01:03:22,402
to go get a bag of smoke.

1353
01:03:23,436 --> 01:03:24,938
We ride to Harlem.

1354
01:03:25,038 --> 01:03:26,806
We stop at a stop sign.

1355
01:03:28,675 --> 01:03:30,810
This dude got his feet
on my dashboard.

1356
01:03:30,910 --> 01:03:33,446
He's looking out the window,
and these little kids
are getting out of school.

1357
01:03:33,546 --> 01:03:37,684
These kids had to be
9, 12, 13 years old.

1358
01:03:37,784 --> 01:03:40,020
Little girls
walking down the street
with skirts on.

1359
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,322
He's leaning back and he said,
"Look at this little bitch.

1360
01:03:42,422 --> 01:03:43,857
I'll rape this little bitch."

1361
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,129
The anger hit me so hard

1362
01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:51,431
that I just forget everything.

1363
01:03:53,967 --> 01:03:56,102
And I had a gun in my car,

1364
01:03:56,202 --> 01:03:58,405
so I reached over
and got the gun
and I hit him in the head...

1365
01:03:58,505 --> 01:03:59,572
...bam!

1366
01:04:01,708 --> 01:04:03,309
I shot him with a 22.

1367
01:04:03,410 --> 01:04:05,278
When I hit him in the back
the second time,

1368
01:04:05,378 --> 01:04:08,181
this dude opened up the door
and jumped out of the car.

1369
01:04:09,082 --> 01:04:11,418
I'm running back,
I'ma hit him again,

1370
01:04:11,518 --> 01:04:14,287
but the school crossing guard
jumped over him and said,

1371
01:04:14,387 --> 01:04:16,189
"Please don't do it.
It ain't worth it."

1372
01:04:16,990 --> 01:04:19,225
So I jumped back into the car

1373
01:04:19,325 --> 01:04:21,161
and I drove straight back
to the headquarters

1374
01:04:22,495 --> 01:04:24,064
and I went and seen John Cuff.

1375
01:04:25,031 --> 01:04:26,700
I told him what happened.

1376
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,902
-As soon as I said that,
the phone rang...

1377
01:04:29,002 --> 01:04:30,270
...and it was Porter's sister.

1378
01:04:31,971 --> 01:04:33,139
She was at the hospital
with him.

1379
01:04:34,541 --> 01:04:36,543
She said,
"Popcorn just shot Apple."

1380
01:04:36,643 --> 01:04:37,977
He was like,
"Well, how is he doing?"

1381
01:04:38,078 --> 01:04:40,347
She's like, "He's okay.
He's gonna be all right."

1382
01:04:40,447 --> 01:04:41,915
He said that,
"We'll handle it."

1383
01:04:43,216 --> 01:04:44,284
And I know what that mean.

1384
01:04:45,652 --> 01:04:46,986
So he hung up the phone...

1385
01:04:47,087 --> 01:04:48,188
...and I looked at Jack,

1386
01:04:49,189 --> 01:04:51,991
and I said, "Yo,
I know what y'all said,

1387
01:04:53,026 --> 01:04:54,961
but I did that.

1388
01:04:55,061 --> 01:04:58,164
My family has nothing
to do with this. It's me.

1389
01:04:58,832 --> 01:05:00,467
I know what y'all gonna do.

1390
01:05:00,567 --> 01:05:01,768
Can I write my family a letter

1391
01:05:01,868 --> 01:05:03,870
and let them know
I love them?"

1392
01:05:03,970 --> 01:05:06,272
And Jack looked at me
and he said, "You know what?

1393
01:05:06,940 --> 01:05:08,108
We don't like that .

1394
01:05:08,908 --> 01:05:10,176
Just go lay low."

1395
01:05:11,111 --> 01:05:12,345
And that's how that happened.

1396
01:05:15,515 --> 01:05:18,184
No longer a member
of Preacher's family,

1397
01:05:18,284 --> 01:05:21,021
Apple Porter goes looking
for new friends

1398
01:05:21,121 --> 01:05:22,589
who can keep him safe.

1399
01:05:23,823 --> 01:05:26,593
Apple Porter was basically
scared for his life.

1400
01:05:27,927 --> 01:05:29,596
They found out Preacher
had turned on him.

1401
01:05:31,164 --> 01:05:32,832
The word's out on the street,
"You're dead."

1402
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,036
And then you get
what you can only hope for is,

1403
01:05:36,136 --> 01:05:38,038
in the FBI or
in law enforcement

1404
01:05:38,138 --> 01:05:39,139
you get the...

1405
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:41,608
...you know, the knock.
"Hey, we needs to talk."

1406
01:05:43,076 --> 01:05:45,779
That's a quote from Apple.
"We needs to talk."

1407
01:05:50,583 --> 01:05:52,786
One of
Preacher's lieutenants

1408
01:05:52,886 --> 01:05:55,522
gave police the location
of Sheila Berry's body.

1409
01:06:01,795 --> 01:06:04,130
They had dumped
her body in one of the
abandoned buildings,

1410
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:06,466
and the roof
and five of the floors

1411
01:06:06,566 --> 01:06:08,134
had collapsed on top of her.

1412
01:06:09,102 --> 01:06:11,304
So now it's part
of the investigation.

1413
01:06:11,404 --> 01:06:13,006
You know, the US
attorney's office goes, "Okay,

1414
01:06:13,106 --> 01:06:14,941
we need to prove
that they killed her,"

1415
01:06:15,041 --> 01:06:17,377
and what's better proof
than, you know,

1416
01:06:17,477 --> 01:06:20,714
finding, you know, her body?

1417
01:06:20,814 --> 01:06:25,652
But you always wonder
whether a cooperating witness
tells you the truth.

1418
01:06:25,752 --> 01:06:29,689
We dug in that building for
five days, almost six days,

1419
01:06:29,789 --> 01:06:31,491
and you're wondering,
as you keep going down,

1420
01:06:31,591 --> 01:06:34,427
layer by layer by layer,
you know,

1421
01:06:34,527 --> 01:06:36,329
was that cooperative witness
telling us the truth?

1422
01:06:37,697 --> 01:06:39,499
So we continued
to dig and dig,

1423
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:42,669
and finally, on day six,
we found her body.

1424
01:06:44,637 --> 01:06:46,906
Now breaking news.
A chilling discovery.

1425
01:06:47,007 --> 01:06:49,909
Police knew there were
victims of a bloody drug war
buried in town.

1426
01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:51,811
Now they think they have one.

1427
01:06:51,911 --> 01:06:53,313
She was skeletonized.

1428
01:06:54,247 --> 01:06:56,149
She had a durag on her head

1429
01:06:56,249 --> 01:06:57,784
-which had
a bullet hole in it.

1430
01:06:57,884 --> 01:07:00,186
And she was wearing a ring
that I remember

1431
01:07:00,286 --> 01:07:02,389
we were able
to help identify her.

1432
01:07:02,489 --> 01:07:04,758
Once they
recovered that body,

1433
01:07:04,858 --> 01:07:07,160
they had
what they needed to go in
and start making arrests,

1434
01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:10,296
and that's when everything
came crashing down.

1435
01:07:26,346 --> 01:07:28,715
Once the indictments
were sealed and everything,

1436
01:07:29,783 --> 01:07:31,351
now we gotta find Preacher.

1437
01:07:33,887 --> 01:07:35,789
Preacher had not been seen
for like three weeks.

1438
01:07:36,890 --> 01:07:38,558
Did he flee?

1439
01:07:38,658 --> 01:07:41,628
Did he get word on the street?
Did Cuff get word to him?

1440
01:07:44,497 --> 01:07:46,800
Finally, he came
out of his apartment.

1441
01:07:49,736 --> 01:07:51,504
He was on his way
to the payphone...

1442
01:07:53,473 --> 01:07:55,508
...and the two
crack NYPD detectives

1443
01:07:55,608 --> 01:07:56,843
that were
part of our task force

1444
01:07:58,044 --> 01:07:59,913
jumped up and arrested him.

1445
01:08:03,516 --> 01:08:05,151
It was an opportunity
to grab him,

1446
01:08:06,419 --> 01:08:07,454
and they grabbed him.

1447
01:08:09,089 --> 01:08:10,090
Even when he was arrested...

1448
01:08:11,858 --> 01:08:14,260
...he still had
this air of invincibility,

1449
01:08:17,797 --> 01:08:19,733
like, "I'm gonna
beat this case."

1450
01:08:28,208 --> 01:08:30,377
When I spoke to him
after the arrest,

1451
01:08:30,477 --> 01:08:31,945
his demeanor was shocking.

1452
01:08:32,045 --> 01:08:34,047
He actually told me
he was happy to see me.

1453
01:08:35,348 --> 01:08:37,450
That was not what
I was expecting to hear,

1454
01:08:37,550 --> 01:08:41,254
but then what
he followed that up with
was death threats.

1455
01:08:44,924 --> 01:08:46,426
We were sitting
in a very small room

1456
01:08:46,526 --> 01:08:48,128
and we don't have any weapons

1457
01:08:48,228 --> 01:08:49,829
if anything breaks bad,
so to speak.

1458
01:08:52,766 --> 01:08:54,801
Preacher tested me there.

1459
01:08:54,901 --> 01:08:56,603
He looked right at me
and said, you know,

1460
01:08:56,703 --> 01:08:57,871
"Who the hell are you?"

1461
01:08:59,539 --> 01:09:01,041
I looked him right in the eye

1462
01:09:01,141 --> 01:09:03,309
and I just said, "I'm the man
that's gonna put you
in the electric chair."

1463
01:09:04,811 --> 01:09:06,346
He just shook his head like,

1464
01:09:06,446 --> 01:09:08,381
"Yeah, he's the real deal."

1465
01:09:10,183 --> 01:09:11,985
When the feds indict you,

1466
01:09:12,085 --> 01:09:15,555
they give you the option
of what you'll be facing
if you go to trial,

1467
01:09:15,655 --> 01:09:18,324
and in Preacher's case,
it was death.

1468
01:09:22,295 --> 01:09:25,865
The feds have
like a 90-something percent
conviction rate,

1469
01:09:25,965 --> 01:09:29,169
so nobody wants to gamble
with their life.

1470
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:35,875
So at that point,
Preacher started cooperating.

1471
01:09:38,244 --> 01:09:42,015
I was shocked at how fast
Preacher flipped.

1472
01:09:44,351 --> 01:09:47,420
This is the guy that's
at the top of this whole
food chain,

1473
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,122
he is the apex predator,

1474
01:09:50,857 --> 01:09:55,362
and he flipped, like,
pretty much immediately.

1475
01:09:56,863 --> 01:09:59,632
I didn't think
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley
or John Cuff

1476
01:09:59,733 --> 01:10:02,769
would ever plead guilty.
They didn't strike me
as that kind of guy.

1477
01:10:02,869 --> 01:10:05,438
He realized
he was a dead duck

1478
01:10:05,538 --> 01:10:07,273
and he was trying
to cut a deal.

1479
01:10:07,374 --> 01:10:10,310
And he told some of
the co-defendants that,

1480
01:10:10,410 --> 01:10:13,880
"You guys are not going to
see past those doors again

1481
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:15,949
because I'm telling."

1482
01:10:16,049 --> 01:10:17,650
He had no shame.

1483
01:10:17,751 --> 01:10:19,686
I just thought
that was just like, "Wow!"

1484
01:10:22,422 --> 01:10:24,057
Out of everybody
in this crew,

1485
01:10:24,157 --> 01:10:26,192
he's the last one
I thought would fold.

1486
01:10:27,327 --> 01:10:28,495
But he's a manipulator.

1487
01:10:28,595 --> 01:10:29,529
He's a user.

1488
01:10:30,597 --> 01:10:32,766
He tried to sacrifice us
to save himself.

1489
01:10:34,267 --> 01:10:36,770
I interviewed Preacher
numerous times.

1490
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:38,338
You sit down
and you talk to this guy,

1491
01:10:38,438 --> 01:10:41,307
you realize that there is
something wrong there.

1492
01:10:41,408 --> 01:10:45,745
He was definitely,
in my opinion, you know,
a psychotic.

1493
01:10:45,845 --> 01:10:48,615
Preacher is not just
your ordinary gangster,

1494
01:10:48,715 --> 01:10:51,551
not just your ordinary
serial killer.

1495
01:10:51,651 --> 01:10:53,019
He's a terrorist

1496
01:10:53,119 --> 01:10:56,156
who even
the serial killers fear.

1497
01:10:56,256 --> 01:10:58,591
When you look
in Preacher's eyes,

1498
01:10:58,692 --> 01:11:01,494
you just see space,

1499
01:11:01,594 --> 01:11:04,664
a blank stare,
like no feeling,

1500
01:11:04,764 --> 01:11:06,099
and I'm thinking to myself,

1501
01:11:06,633 --> 01:11:08,768
"He has no soul."

1502
01:11:09,769 --> 01:11:12,238
But he verified everything.

1503
01:11:13,573 --> 01:11:15,875
About 10:00 o'clock
in the morning,

1504
01:11:15,975 --> 01:11:17,777
the fire department
knocks on my door.

1505
01:11:17,877 --> 01:11:19,579
-They come running
into the house

1506
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:21,715
saying that there's
a chemical leak going on.

1507
01:11:21,815 --> 01:11:23,016
Everyone gotta
get out of the house.

1508
01:11:23,116 --> 01:11:25,418
So my wife, they told her
to go get the baby,

1509
01:11:25,518 --> 01:11:27,520
"We'll go get your husband,"

1510
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:30,423
So they came in the room
and told me to get dressed

1511
01:11:30,523 --> 01:11:32,058
because there's
a chemical leak going on.

1512
01:11:32,158 --> 01:11:34,327
So when I got to the door,

1513
01:11:34,427 --> 01:11:37,263
-it was the Police Department,
the news...

1514
01:11:37,364 --> 01:11:38,465
Everybody was outside.

1515
01:11:39,866 --> 01:11:41,868
-And that's how
they locked me up.

1516
01:11:42,969 --> 01:11:47,474
I was visited
by a federal prosecutor.

1517
01:11:47,574 --> 01:11:50,477
Mary Jo White says,
"Before you say anything,

1518
01:11:51,411 --> 01:11:52,579
you have no attorney here.

1519
01:11:52,679 --> 01:11:55,382
Are you willing to speak?"
I said, "No."

1520
01:11:55,482 --> 01:11:57,584
She says,
"Well, don't say anything.
Just listen."

1521
01:11:57,684 --> 01:12:00,086
She set a mini recorder
on the table,

1522
01:12:00,186 --> 01:12:02,622
and she started
putting in cassette tapes.

1523
01:12:02,722 --> 01:12:04,858
The first tape she put in
was Clarence Heatley,

1524
01:12:05,859 --> 01:12:07,894
and he started naming names.

1525
01:12:09,896 --> 01:12:11,331
Yes, he did.

1526
01:12:11,431 --> 01:12:12,732
Preacher betrayed me.

1527
01:12:14,434 --> 01:12:17,737
He gave statements
on pretty much everybody
in the crew,

1528
01:12:17,837 --> 01:12:20,006
and I heard the
cassette tapes, personally.

1529
01:12:21,808 --> 01:12:23,343
As he explained
each murder,

1530
01:12:23,443 --> 01:12:25,011
the thing that
I couldn't believe,

1531
01:12:25,111 --> 01:12:27,547
he tried to rationalize
everything to me.

1532
01:12:27,647 --> 01:12:30,450
He was talking about Malik.
He was trying
to rationalize...

1533
01:12:30,550 --> 01:12:32,686
...killing Malik.

1534
01:12:32,786 --> 01:12:34,220
He said, "Well, you know,
that boy got out of line."

1535
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,790
"Yeah, well,
he didn't get out of line.

1536
01:12:36,890 --> 01:12:38,925
He didn't do anything
outside of your orders."

1537
01:12:39,726 --> 01:12:41,194
And they cleaned it up
so nice,

1538
01:12:41,294 --> 01:12:44,030
but they never
washed down the walls,

1539
01:12:44,130 --> 01:12:45,765
and they made the mistake

1540
01:12:45,865 --> 01:12:47,100
of leaving that
skill saw blade...

1541
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,069
-...in the corner
of the basement.

1542
01:12:49,169 --> 01:12:51,404
The FBI matched the blood
to Malik.

1543
01:12:52,572 --> 01:12:53,773
One of his reasons for talking

1544
01:12:53,873 --> 01:12:55,809
was, you know,
he was looking for a deal.

1545
01:12:57,010 --> 01:12:59,412
"Sammy the Bull" Gravano's
name, from La Cosa Nostra,

1546
01:12:59,512 --> 01:13:01,781
was brought up so many times

1547
01:13:01,881 --> 01:13:05,585
because he got to walk
on so many homicides.

1548
01:13:05,685 --> 01:13:08,321
So now you're sitting there
with a guy that you know
is a killer,

1549
01:13:09,556 --> 01:13:11,925
and you convince them that,
if "Sammy the Bull" Gravano

1550
01:13:12,025 --> 01:13:14,361
can get away
with that many murders
and be out,

1551
01:13:15,428 --> 01:13:16,396
what do you got?

1552
01:13:16,496 --> 01:13:18,832
And we were actually
successful

1553
01:13:18,932 --> 01:13:20,767
in using that name
several times

1554
01:13:20,867 --> 01:13:22,202
to actually let them
come forward

1555
01:13:22,302 --> 01:13:23,903
and tell us
which murders they did.

1556
01:13:25,372 --> 01:13:28,541
But as he freely
admitted murder 12,

1557
01:13:28,641 --> 01:13:32,679
US attorney said, "No,"
you know, "that's too much.

1558
01:13:32,779 --> 01:13:34,748
Now any kind of a deal
is off the table."

1559
01:13:36,216 --> 01:13:37,684
One of the most
chilling things to me

1560
01:13:37,784 --> 01:13:39,919
during the
entire investigation

1561
01:13:40,020 --> 01:13:42,822
was when he's talking
about the kid, Donnell Porter.

1562
01:13:42,922 --> 01:13:44,557
He looked me in the eye
and he says,

1563
01:13:44,657 --> 01:13:47,160
"You've gotta understand,
I couldn't let that kid live."

1564
01:13:49,629 --> 01:13:51,598
You know, they were
actually afraid

1565
01:13:51,698 --> 01:13:53,533
that some of the people
in the complex

1566
01:13:53,633 --> 01:13:55,802
would hear the kid screaming
in the basement,

1567
01:13:55,902 --> 01:13:57,604
so the autopsy revealed
that he was suffocated.

1568
01:13:59,806 --> 01:14:02,742
In some strange way,

1569
01:14:02,842 --> 01:14:05,078
I think he really wanted
to tell his story.

1570
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:07,847
He was looking for
some sort of absolution.

1571
01:14:07,947 --> 01:14:09,949
Like, "I did
all these bad things,

1572
01:14:10,050 --> 01:14:14,354
but these are my reasons,
and please forgive me."

1573
01:14:14,454 --> 01:14:17,891
He wanted to say,
"You did wrong and," you know,
"God forgives you,"

1574
01:14:17,991 --> 01:14:21,761
or, you know,
"There was a reason for
why you did what you did."

1575
01:14:21,861 --> 01:14:24,064
But it worked in our favor

1576
01:14:24,164 --> 01:14:27,434
'cause he's baring his soul,
telling us all the details.

1577
01:14:27,534 --> 01:14:30,470
As long as he was talking,
he kept, you know,

1578
01:14:30,570 --> 01:14:32,906
sinking himself
more and more and more.

1579
01:14:33,006 --> 01:14:35,275
So, by the time we finished
the interviews with him,

1580
01:14:36,042 --> 01:14:37,544
the case was iron clad.

1581
01:14:39,612 --> 01:14:40,947
This guy's a monster.

1582
01:14:57,430 --> 01:15:01,968
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley
confesses to 25 murders,

1583
01:15:02,068 --> 01:15:05,105
but the feds only have enough
corroborating evidence

1584
01:15:05,205 --> 01:15:07,207
to charge him with 13.

1585
01:15:07,307 --> 01:15:11,878
Investigators suspect
the crew carried out
75 more killings

1586
01:15:11,978 --> 01:15:15,281
during its bloody
13-year reign.

1587
01:15:15,382 --> 01:15:19,953
Preacher's confession
puts nearly every member
of his crew in prison.

1588
01:15:24,491 --> 01:15:25,558
When they
locked me up

1589
01:15:25,658 --> 01:15:27,961
they put me in
the same unit with Preacher.

1590
01:15:28,061 --> 01:15:30,697
Well, Preacher comes up to me
and I ask him, I was like,
"What the hell is going on?"

1591
01:15:30,797 --> 01:15:33,433
He said, "Listen,
your part in this is minimal,

1592
01:15:34,234 --> 01:15:36,603
but I told them everything."

1593
01:15:36,703 --> 01:15:37,771
I said, "You did what?"

1594
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:41,608
He said,
"I told them everything."

1595
01:15:41,708 --> 01:15:44,010
He said,
"Anything they didn't know,
they know now."

1596
01:15:46,246 --> 01:15:49,849
And so I wound up
serving five years

1597
01:15:49,949 --> 01:15:52,018
for shooting Apple Porter.

1598
01:15:53,153 --> 01:15:54,954
The last thing
I heard from Preacher

1599
01:15:55,055 --> 01:15:56,322
was a message he sent,

1600
01:15:56,423 --> 01:15:59,359
"Keep your mouth closed and
stand up while you inside."

1601
01:16:01,895 --> 01:16:05,198
So I waited for five years
and eight months

1602
01:16:05,298 --> 01:16:07,934
before I pled guilty
to all four murders.

1603
01:16:09,736 --> 01:16:11,004
I took my deal.

1604
01:16:11,104 --> 01:16:12,172
Fifteen to life.

1605
01:16:17,377 --> 01:16:20,113
Believe me, I ask myself
that question all the time.

1606
01:16:21,781 --> 01:16:24,351
How did he get these people
to do this?

1607
01:16:26,353 --> 01:16:29,055
The mind control that he had
over all these people

1608
01:16:29,155 --> 01:16:31,157
is something that we could
never really comprehend...

1609
01:16:33,159 --> 01:16:35,228
...but to take somebody
from a broken home,

1610
01:16:35,328 --> 01:16:37,831
you show them some love,
some respect,

1611
01:16:37,931 --> 01:16:40,000
you show them some money,
some power,

1612
01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:41,568
that was the hook,
so to speak,

1613
01:16:41,668 --> 01:16:43,636
and then he brought 'em in.

1614
01:16:43,737 --> 01:16:46,373
I sometimes
compare him to, like,
Charles Manson,

1615
01:16:46,473 --> 01:16:49,909
who can actually get
a bunch of people to pull
acts of violence for him.

1616
01:16:51,144 --> 01:16:54,214
He's very manipulative,
he's very charismatic,

1617
01:16:55,615 --> 01:16:57,150
but he's very dangerous.

1618
01:16:58,318 --> 01:16:59,886
Manson had a crew,

1619
01:16:59,986 --> 01:17:02,355
a group of followers,

1620
01:17:02,455 --> 01:17:05,859
they were obsessed with
the manner in which he spoke.

1621
01:17:05,959 --> 01:17:08,528
He had almost
a hypnotic effect.

1622
01:17:10,163 --> 01:17:11,297
So did the Preacher.

1623
01:17:13,299 --> 01:17:16,302
It was like
we were all in a trance.

1624
01:17:20,473 --> 01:17:25,879
The life I lived with Preacher
was definitely cult-like.

1625
01:17:25,979 --> 01:17:27,814
He was the Black
Charles Manson.

1626
01:17:27,914 --> 01:17:28,915
That's who he was.

1627
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:33,953
I've seen the nicest man
I've ever met,

1628
01:17:34,487 --> 01:17:36,456
and I've also seen

1629
01:17:36,556 --> 01:17:39,626
the scariest person
that you could imagine.

1630
01:17:45,832 --> 01:17:47,600
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley
pleaded guilty

1631
01:17:47,701 --> 01:17:51,705
to a slew of very complex
federal charges

1632
01:17:51,805 --> 01:17:54,574
that included 13 murders
in aid of racketeering,

1633
01:17:55,508 --> 01:17:57,544
along with other charges
connected to

1634
01:17:57,644 --> 01:18:00,313
his participation in a
continuing criminal enterprise

1635
01:18:00,413 --> 01:18:01,514
and the use of firearms,

1636
01:18:01,614 --> 01:18:04,017
along with other
racketeering acts,

1637
01:18:04,117 --> 01:18:06,853
and John Cuff pleaded guilty
to similar charges,

1638
01:18:08,555 --> 01:18:11,791
however, Preacher was never
found guilty or convicted

1639
01:18:11,891 --> 01:18:13,560
of the murder
of Donnell Porter.

1640
01:18:15,762 --> 01:18:18,064
Nobody
got charged for Donnell.

1641
01:18:18,164 --> 01:18:20,333
Everybody took
plea deals, okay?

1642
01:18:20,433 --> 01:18:22,002
So there was no court trial.

1643
01:18:23,436 --> 01:18:25,605
I think
that's a great frustration
for a lot of people

1644
01:18:29,275 --> 01:18:31,544
because that's really what got
a lot of people motivated

1645
01:18:31,644 --> 01:18:33,046
to work on the case.

1646
01:18:33,146 --> 01:18:35,448
It would have been nice
to see some resolution,

1647
01:18:35,548 --> 01:18:37,951
but not every case
can be proven beyond
a reasonable doubt.

1648
01:18:38,051 --> 01:18:39,319
There's a very high standard.

1649
01:18:40,620 --> 01:18:43,823
Even if I know in my heart
that somebody did something,

1650
01:18:43,923 --> 01:18:46,493
you must corroborate
what people are telling you.

1651
01:18:48,028 --> 01:18:50,163
Once Heatley
got to sentencing,

1652
01:18:50,730 --> 01:18:52,198
he asked for leniency.

1653
01:18:52,298 --> 01:18:55,935
He felt like, since he didn't
physically commit the murders,

1654
01:18:56,036 --> 01:18:57,804
that he shouldn't take
the brunt of the weight.

1655
01:18:59,005 --> 01:19:02,275
Before sentencing,
Preacher reads a statement.

1656
01:19:03,677 --> 01:19:07,447
"It's with deep regret
and remorse
that I am here today.

1657
01:19:07,547 --> 01:19:11,418
I have betrayed my family,
my neighbors and my community.

1658
01:19:11,518 --> 01:19:13,920
Though, for the life of me,

1659
01:19:14,020 --> 01:19:16,589
I haven't killed anyone.

1660
01:19:16,690 --> 01:19:19,359
I understand that,
if your hand touched the gun,

1661
01:19:19,459 --> 01:19:20,794
you gave the nod,

1662
01:19:20,894 --> 01:19:22,629
or if you just were there,

1663
01:19:22,729 --> 01:19:24,431
-then you gave
the devil his due.

1664
01:19:26,833 --> 01:19:29,169
Whatever acts
I committed like a coward

1665
01:19:29,269 --> 01:19:33,540
won't stop me from taking
what I have coming to me
like a man."

1666
01:19:39,446 --> 01:19:41,014
His letter
that he wrote to the judge

1667
01:19:41,114 --> 01:19:44,384
was just an extension
of the manipulation

1668
01:19:44,484 --> 01:19:46,553
to get what needs to be got

1669
01:19:48,188 --> 01:19:49,889
because, given what happened,

1670
01:19:49,989 --> 01:19:52,792
he should have been
put to death, but he wasn't.

1671
01:19:55,161 --> 01:19:57,564
If individuals
offer to plead guilty,

1672
01:19:57,664 --> 01:19:58,932
often, the federal government

1673
01:19:59,032 --> 01:20:02,002
will accept something
like life without parole.

1674
01:20:02,102 --> 01:20:05,071
It avoids
all of the uncertainty

1675
01:20:05,171 --> 01:20:07,440
and gets a sentence
that guarantees

1676
01:20:07,540 --> 01:20:09,809
that the defendants
never walk out of prison,

1677
01:20:10,744 --> 01:20:13,046
and that they'll die in jail.

1678
01:20:13,146 --> 01:20:16,683
So Preacher got life
in prison without parole,

1679
01:20:16,783 --> 01:20:20,286
and John Cuff also received
life in prison without parole.

1680
01:20:21,388 --> 01:20:23,256
How many people
they killed, tortured...

1681
01:20:24,657 --> 01:20:26,559
...chopped up, extorted.

1682
01:20:27,727 --> 01:20:31,164
Just the sheer numbers
are amazing.

1683
01:20:31,264 --> 01:20:34,100
So if anybody
deserved to be killed,

1684
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:35,335
Preacher deserved
to be killed.

1685
01:20:37,303 --> 01:20:39,806
One of the things that
bothers me about this case

1686
01:20:39,906 --> 01:20:43,576
is how his psychotic behavior
molded the lives

1687
01:20:43,677 --> 01:20:46,546
of these impressionable
young men from broken homes

1688
01:20:46,646 --> 01:20:47,947
that maybe,
if it wasn't for him,

1689
01:20:48,048 --> 01:20:50,150
they could have maybe made
something with their lives.

1690
01:20:52,185 --> 01:20:53,286
Preacher's a predator.

1691
01:20:54,621 --> 01:20:57,490
I'm pissed as hell.
You know what I'm saying?

1692
01:20:57,590 --> 01:21:00,427
'Cause they dragged me
into it. And I...

1693
01:21:00,527 --> 01:21:02,128
I lost part of my life.

1694
01:21:04,330 --> 01:21:05,965
I did a lot of evil
in my life.

1695
01:21:06,066 --> 01:21:07,300
I killed four people.

1696
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:08,868
And everything I did,

1697
01:21:09,636 --> 01:21:11,004
I did out of love
for Preacher.

1698
01:21:18,445 --> 01:21:20,280
There's four Black men,

1699
01:21:22,215 --> 01:21:23,216
fathers,

1700
01:21:24,851 --> 01:21:28,688
that never had a chance
to change, to grow

1701
01:21:29,689 --> 01:21:31,624
and it kills me.

1702
01:21:34,427 --> 01:21:37,197
Preacher probably
could have been anything
he wanted to be

1703
01:21:37,297 --> 01:21:40,800
because he was able
to attract attention,
attract people,

1704
01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:43,303
get people to bend at the will

1705
01:21:43,403 --> 01:21:45,238
of the snap of a finger,

1706
01:21:48,508 --> 01:21:50,977
But Preacher's agenda
was violence.

1707
01:21:51,077 --> 01:21:54,714
Preacher's agenda
was to control Harlem.

1708
01:21:54,814 --> 01:21:58,551
Like, nothing
could go through Harlem
without his okay.

1709
01:22:00,653 --> 01:22:03,390
When people ask me,
after 30 years of doing cases,

1710
01:22:03,490 --> 01:22:04,991
including prosecuting
terrorists,

1711
01:22:05,091 --> 01:22:07,427
"Who are the baddest guys
you've ever seen?"

1712
01:22:09,763 --> 01:22:12,265
the words
Clarence "Preacher" Heatley
always come out of my mouth.

1713
01:22:14,901 --> 01:22:16,469
How do you
describe someone like that?

1714
01:22:16,569 --> 01:22:19,572
He's just pure evil.

1715
01:22:20,907 --> 01:22:22,909
It's hard to say exactly
how many murders

1716
01:22:23,009 --> 01:22:25,545
Clarence Heatley
is responsible for,

1717
01:22:25,645 --> 01:22:28,214
fact and fiction
sometimes blur,

1718
01:22:28,314 --> 01:22:31,351
and his reputation
as an unpredictable killer

1719
01:22:31,451 --> 01:22:33,420
fueled the legend
of the Preacher,

1720
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,890
turning him into an almost
supernatural force

1721
01:22:36,990 --> 01:22:38,992
who pretended to be
a man of God,

1722
01:22:39,092 --> 01:22:41,494
a best friend,
a surrogate father,

1723
01:22:41,995 --> 01:22:43,296
but in reality,

1724
01:22:43,396 --> 01:22:46,533
destroyed many families
and countless lives.

1725
01:22:47,267 --> 01:22:48,635
I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

1726
01:22:48,735 --> 01:22:50,904
Thanks for watching.
Good night.

1727
01:22:53,373 --> 01:22:56,142
Next time, on
Very Scary People...

1728
01:22:56,710 --> 01:22:58,878
This is a psychotic family

1729
01:22:58,978 --> 01:23:01,915
who will do whatever they want
to meet their objective.

1730
01:23:02,849 --> 01:23:05,151
David said he knows how to kill
people without leaving a trace.

1731
01:23:05,251 --> 01:23:07,120
"I'll bury your body--
they'll never find it."

1732
01:23:08,121 --> 01:23:10,724
Crazy, twisted, evil people.